Win95 setup failure

It would be helpfull if you can please thel us which board, cpu, ram, etc.
and one more thing, did you UPGRADE an old system (486?) to this one?
or is this a fresh installation?
also, what version of 95 are you trying to install?

Elc.

Without more info can't give a very good answer. In addition toe elc_music's comment, what features are on the motherboard? AGP? onboard sound, nic, or video?

Have your checked your cmos settings and tried slowing down the memory access speeds? Try turning off/slowing down the read/write delays. Also check to make sure that your cache ram board is well seated in it's socket. Bad connections on cache ram can do WIERD things.

Many thanks for all your information.  Maybe I did not make it clear, but when I replaced the mother board I tried running with the old disk, but was not surprised when it would not run properly so I have now reformated the hard drive as it came from another machine and had a lot of rubbish on it and I am now installintg a clean disk with Win95 and it is the setup program which is craching.  All that is left of the old machine is the case, power supply and monitor!   The motherboard is new but would appear to be fairly anonymous, it has onboard sound and video and uses AMI BIOS, the cache memory is surface mounted and it has a 32MB SDRAM and a 120MHz Processor.   I had already disabled bios virus checking, and slowed down memory access and check CMOS setup for anything obviously wrong.  I have left shadow RAM setings on the default seting.
If this helps with any more suggestions I would be grateful, in the meantime I will examine your helpful gpf document
Regards John.

The answer above is still valid. The KRNL386.exe file controls all the 16 bit programs that have to run in Win95. Since you've reinstalled, then try this:

Do an f8 boot (press F8 on starting Windows 95)

Choose the option "command prompt only"

type in the following

cd windows {or the win directory}

attrib system.ini -r -s -a -h

ren system.ini system.bak

copy system.cb system.ini

reboot into windows.

the system.cb is a clean version of system.ini. IT has no 'real mode' drivers in it. See if you can get into windows without error. YOu may have no mouse, unless you add the following line:

[boot]

mouse.drv=mouse.drv

Also, you may want to rename your autoexec.bat and config.sys.

Good luck.

j_powers.
Thanks for the further info.   The problem is that I do not have a windows system as I cannot install it.   It is the installation program that crashes very early on, soon after I have given it the licence number.

After further playing with the system, I am getting an occasional crash in DOS so I will re-check all plugs and jumpers incase there is a hardware setup problem.
Regards  John.

Then you might want to check the settings in the BIOS.

How do you load up windows? Do you have to load DOS first, or can you just run the setup? This may be important here.

Let me know.

It also MAY be a CD-Rom drive problem.
It happend to me last week as I was building a new PC with the Cyber drive x32,
EVERY time I accessed the cd-rom, it took a looooooooooooooooong time,
but audio CD caused SYSTEM CRASH ! (EVERY TIME !)
but when I installed  a toshiba x10 CD-Rom, no crashes, no blue screen, smooth 95.
please CHECK !
also, check that your BOARD and CPU are compatible and jumperred corectly.
ELC.

j_powers
First of all I just did a sys to the hard disk and put on mscdex, set up the CDROM drivers in config.sys and autoexec.bat
Now I have done a full installation of DOS6.22 and it was when I had done this that I was spending time in DOS that crashes became evident.   I wil try to have another go through the motherboard jumpers this weekend and will report back.
Thanks once again
John.

It is also recomended to run somthing like NDIAGS from Norton Utilities or CHECKIT or somthing like it, this can give a fast look on youre board, mem, etc'.
GOOD LUCK.
ELC.

However, you are putting on DOS 6.22 to load win95. There are a host of programs that may be causing the problem. Do this instead:

1. On your boot disk, just add your CD rom drivers.

2. Boot on the clean computer. Sys the drive so you can boot to it. Do not have anything in the Autoexec.bat or Config.sys

3. create a Win95flat (md Win95flat)

4. copy all the files from  the Win95 directory.

5. Reboot to your c:\ drive.

You will not have a CD rom, but you will be able to run setup.  What this does is this lets you setup Win95 without any other programs loaded. Not even DOS 6.22 is loaded, or even CD ROM drivers.

If the Win95 CD is an upgraden CD, then during the setup, you will be asked to proove that you have an earlier version. Otherwise, do not load anything but Win 95.

Give this a try, and let me know what happens.

Lame answers...geesh what tech school did you folks attend, oh i get it your too busy readin dose dam dos for dummies books and windows for dummies books.  JColle and your probabley new to computers I take it.  Whenever you install a new mother board and basically try to boot up, your lucky you didnt damage your hd, circuitry, the list goes on.  Son take it from me not any of deese other meatballs especially da guy who uses the food analogy..You must start from scratch to avoid any erros or conflicts.  What you have done was (SHOCKED) your system, the next would be (BLOWN) your system but you stopped.  Be patient and start over..Your mother board through circuitry (if you've ever taken electical classes in college) has to communicate with all other devices on your sytem.  That way it reads it and knows what its capable of.  Another boot problem also could be the kind of ram you use, I take it edo, faste page mem, what?  Lastely for you guys who think you could just install  a mother board without setting the jumpers my god what the hell is wrong with you!  Thats why they come with manuals.  And dont try to put in a processor that overides you mother board jumper configs...man you could have what we techs call (a hiroshima boot up affect) when you turn on your pc while trying this.
(KA____POOOOOOOOOF!  you dig?

Oh Dynamity, I bet you finished DRAMA school didnt you?
I love your "Hiroshima boot up effect. " come on dont be so rude, the man just wana replace his mother bd. we ALL said check jumpers, bios, cpu, voltage etc'.
I must say there is a point in what you say, but dont be such over ...
ELC.

ELC Music.
Well I been told I am a little boysterous at times buy whad do you expect from a guy who lives in da heart of the big apple huh? Tell  you what next time your in town if yous ever come up here you get 20% off any pc part you  need plus cab discounts and you will need a cabby jus like a computer needs a hod drive!  You god it?

You know wah Danymity ?
I think I realy like yah.
Ba I live much ta far from ya.
just about over 3000 miles ya sea ?
the other side of da world yah?
bah anyway, if yah wanna E-mail me, let me know ok?
Thats gona be real fun!

and Jcolles,
When are you going to grade the answer you got? we are all waiting for yah.
ELC.

J_powers.
Many thanks for all your help.  My big problem now is lack of time, but I will be back on the job in about a weeks time.
Let me assure Danymity that I was working on computers in the days of Argos 600s, way before PCs were invented.  All jumpers on this motherboard were carefully checked with the manual in order to prevent Hiroshima effects.  Thank you all for your input, I will report back I've had another go at it.
Regards John.