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win98 not seeing entire drive

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I have installed a new quantum fireball 5.1 gb harddrive. My bios sees the 5.1 gig and fdisk sees slightly smaller. Quantum provided software called disc manager and this reformatted my entire drive to fat32 with no partitions and it saw 5.1 gigs. win 98 does not. It only sees 2 gig. ??? I am checking this by right clicking on my c drive and viewing properties. Is this correct?
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by:JBURGHARDT
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Did you enable LBA in bios there is limit in dos and windows to 1024 sectors and new hard drive has more than this so some setings will be higher like heads number so if you have 4096 sectors and 16 heads this should be set using LBA as 1024 cylinders and 64 heads.
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by:chesbro
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You may still need to use Win98's fat32 conversion utility, it sounds like it's still seeing the drive as fat16.
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by:rmarotta
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kasdas,
See the following for related info:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q127/8/52.asp
Regards,
Ralph

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by:uilleann
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ouch, try to get the diskmanager off.
This will not be easy if you're unlucky but should be possible with the util that came with it.
Fdisk the drive with large disk support.
Format it and let windows setup loose on it.
or just boot win if it's your second disk.
You should see 5.1 then.

try to get help removing the diskmanager if you're not sure how to do this for it can
screw up your drive as far as not being able to access it anymore.

Good luck
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by:vikiing
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You're using the disk with FAT16 structure. Under that scheme, 2 Gb is the highest size your system will recognize, no matter if the disk is greater than that.

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by:rmarotta
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vikiing,
Although your information is correct, it's not the "answer" to this problem.
Please read the part of the question that says: ".......reformatted my entire drive to fat32 "

kasdas,
I suggest you reject the proposed answer if it doesn't solve your problem.
Regards,
Ralph
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by:kasdas
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As I wrote, my drive is formatted fat32. win98 will not give me the option of reformatting as it already says that drive c is fat32. Any other suggestions?
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by:rmarotta
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Did you look at the article I referred to in my earlier post?
Ralph
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by:rmarotta
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Wait a minute......
Is Windows installed on the new drive......  or was the Quantum  added to your system, with Windows installed on a FAT16 drive?
Ralph

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by:kasdas
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The new quantum was installed fresh then win98 was installed to fresh new drive.
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by:rmarotta
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What does scandisk report about the drive?
Ralph
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skylab060398 earned 100 total points
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Here is a suggestion if you don't mind completly wiping out everything:
Create a Win98 Startup (boot) Disk, make sure "format.com and fdisk.exe" are on it.
Boot from the disk.
You can get rid of the Disk Manager by typing FDISK/MBR
Next type "fdisk" and delete the partition/s
Create a new Partition/s
Format the drive
You should have your entire HD available now.

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by:kasdas
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Scandisk is only seeing the 2 gig also. I will attempt skylabs suggestion then grade his answer if it is successful.
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by:rmarotta
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When you installed Windows onto the "fresh new drive", did setup offer to configure the drive's unused space?
Is so, did you answer "Y" to the question asking you if you want to use large disk support?
You will have to choose this option when using FDISK if you want a single partition of maximum drive capacity. (FAT32)
Ralph

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by:kasdas
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Thanks again Ralph but I did answer "y" to enable large disk support. Fdisk is telling me that I have slightly less than 5.1 gigs but I'm told that this is normal. Though it is calling this the "primary dos" partition. This is not a bad thing is it?
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by:rmarotta
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There is more than one way to define a "megabyte", hence the discrepancy in reported size.  So far, so good!
What is the "Usage" of drive C: that is reported by FDISK for that partition?
Ralph
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by:kasdas
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Fdisk reads 100% usage.
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by:rmarotta
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Did you try skylab's suggestion?
I wouldn't delete the partition yet, but it should be safe to run FDISK/MBR.
(BTW, DO a backup of anything you can't live without if something goes wrong here.)
Ralph
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by:kasdas
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Extra thanks to Ralph. Problem solved!
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by:rmarotta
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What was the solution?
FDISK/MBR or re-partitioning?
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by:kasdas
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Hi Ralph, I had to delete the exsiting partition then repartition. I think the repartition was the answer.
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