Quake: Shub Niggurath's Pit

I am on the last level, the Shub Niggurath's Pit. I found the secret area, into the slip gate there, which brings me back to the first slip gate around the pool. Then what? By entering the first slip gate, sometimes I get the Congratulations, sometimes just transports me into the pool. Is it a random process or is there something I must do to trigger the win?

Second, what is the pointed ball doing? I mean the pointed shaped thing that wander around endlessly. It doesn't shoot at me, and shooting at it (or for that matter, the white tree that I supposed to be the Shub Niggurath) doesn't produce any effect (or should I keep on shooting them?). What is the ball?

Irene012397Asked:
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Ronald BusterOwnerCommented:
The pointed ball should fanish into the monster and once this is done you should walk trough the slip gate and you get your congratulations. It is not a random process.

If you have more questions about Quake, please feel free to ask.

Regards,

Cono & Ares  (SQUAD 7/European Quake Clan)




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Irene012397Author Commented:
Q1: what is "fanish" into the monster?
Q2: which is "the monster"? the white tree thing?
Q3: you mean back from the secret area, I should wait till something happen? I usually walked into the slipgate (the one on top of the ledge) immediately and very often end up in the pool. The ball seems to keep on its orbit for ever, ignoring me or the tree.
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GrahnCommented:
The pointed ball is actually the place where you arrive when stepping into the teleporter. When you get the congratulation message you did telefrag the monster.
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Irene012397Author Commented:
Thanks Grahn for your comments. But I become more confused than ever...

> The pointed ball is actually the place where you arrive when
> stepping into the teleporter.

Which "stepping" are you referring to? Two possibilities came to my mind. First into the red teleporter that brings me from the initial water area to the corridor leading to the lava pool. Second, into the final teleporter. I believe you are talking about the second one, although the pointed ball begin to appear before me after the first one.

After I stepped into the second one, and *if* I get the congratulations (which is the my main question), I saw "myself" cutting the white tree by something like an axe. That's why I suppose the tree is the Shub Niggurath. I didn't remember seeing the ball at that time. Are you asserting that I am actually at the pointed ball at that time?

>When you get the congratulation message you did telefrag the
>monster.

Does telefrag mean cutting the tree?

BTW I see the word frag a lot. What does it mean?

Sorry for raising so many questions but I am so confused about what is happening.
 
 
 

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GrahnCommented:
in quake you get a frag for killing an opponent, when you telefrag someone you invade his personal space and therefor he dies. that can happen after stepping into a teleporter when someone else are standing where you arrive. then he dies instantly, no matter what kind of armour he had and stuff.
yes, "the white tree" is Shub Niggurath, he dies instantly, just like the rest, when he is telefragged.
that's why you have to step into the teleporter at the right time (when the ball is very near shub).
hop that helped you a bit.
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Ronald BusterOwnerCommented:
Q1: what is "fanish" into the monster?

Sorry I meant vanish, disappear into the monster.

Q2: which is "the monster"? the white tree thing?

The monster is the white tree thing !
 
Q3: you mean back from the secret area, I should wait till something happen? I usually walked into the slipgate (the one on top of the ledge) immediately and very often end up in the pool. The ball seems to keep on its orbit for ever, ignoring me or the tree.

You have to wait by the slipgate and the pointed ball will disappear into the white tree thing.

regards,

Cono

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Irene012397Author Commented:
Thanks Grahn and cono for the explanation. How I think I understand. Let me put it in my own words for you to check. I after visiting the secret area, I should wait till the ball is at the tree, and step into the gate. And as a matter of fact, whenever I walk into the gate, I arrive at the ball, which usually means falling into the lava pool. By getting into the gate at the right time, I telefrag the tree.

Two small questions.

a) Is one supposed to find out the meaning of the ball by experiementing or is it revealed elsewhere?

b) I feel that if I stay on the initial part of the ledge fighting the shamblers and vores, more and more will be teleported in. Is it true? Do they come from the ball also?


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Ronald BusterOwnerCommented:
You are getting it girlie.

a). It is a matter of experimenting and it is not revealed elsewhere ?

b). No they don't come from the ball, the ball has nothing to do with the shambles and vores.

regards,

Cono
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Ronald BusterOwnerCommented:
reward me with your points !!

regards,

Cono

(if you have more questions about quake feel free to ask me, I  play all levels from quake in fast mode (approx. 30 minutes) and in normal mode (full kill ratio) 1 hour and 30 minutes. and I no every secret in all levels.

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Irene012397Author Commented:
You asked for it. On another thread (or I can't score you).
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