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I feel foolish.  I've installed Windows 98 so many times to partitions and re-installed it over existing Win98 setups.  Now I have a blank, factory-fresh HD, a Windows Startup disk and the Windows 98 CD.  

So I create a partition (c:) and format it as FAT16.  When I boot up with the Windows Startup disk, I choose load with CD-Rom drivers.  I've tried typing "setup", but all I get is a scandisk check ending back at the prompt.  I've tried going to the Win98 directory on the CD and typing "oemsetup", but at the end of the scandisk operation, it says "Remove any floppies & Reboot"  When I do, it tells me that I have an invalid system disk.  When I copy the system files to the c: drive, it then tells me that it cannot install as there is another OS.  I think I should have everything I need on the CD and startup disk to do the install, but now I'm wondering.  Can anyone help?
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by:Patricia Siu-Lai Ho
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pbowne, you've forgotten the installation procedure for a clean setup of win98. First of all, what would you like your harddisk to be (multiboot system ) or just single system win98 - As you format it into FAT16, why ? How large is your hardisk.           pslh
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by:pbowne
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My HD is 13.0G and I would like to setup linux on it also.  I have Partition Magic (with Boot Magic), gotten so I can add more OS'es and learn about them.  I thought I had to format it to start.  When I hadn't, at first, I still had this difficulty.
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by:Patricia Siu-Lai Ho
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pbowne, are you intending to install NT or not?  pslh
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by:pbowne
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Not for now.  At a later date, I will probably switch over, but I'll start from scratch then.  I don't want to spend $300+ for NT at present.
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by:delphiusr
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In the clean setup of windows 98, have you tried this:

setup /im /is /iq (and I think /id) to skip the scandisk check? Also, how large is your partition for c: ? finally, try setting it up using Fat32
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Patricia Siu-Lai Ho earned 400 total points
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pbowne,  Suggest as following, since you are not intending to use NT, thus you can partition your harddisk to FAT16 or FAT32. Then install win98. Use Partition Magic and BootMagic to install linux as second operating system.

Clean install of win98 with CD-rom
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If you have the installation startup floppy disk of win98,then

1)Booting the computer using the Win98-startup floppy.

  a)Partition the Hard disk using the "Fdisk" in the floppy.
    The version of Fdisk in win98 can support Fat32 and large drive over 2G

  b)Format the Hard disk using the "Format"

    Make the win98 system command to the master drive C of the hard disk.
 
    For master drive format type "FORMAT C:/S/C" (without quotation)
    (it make C: with win98 system and test clusters that are currently marked bad)

    For slave drive format type  "FORMAT d: "   (without quotation)

    If needed in case for C drive which has been formatted without win98 system.com ,
    at startup floppy , transfer the <sys.com> of win98 to the C drive
          Type at A:\sys a: c:

  c)After formatting, reboot using the startup floppy.

  d)Copy the file "MSCDEX.EXE" and "HIMEM.SYS" from the win98startup disk and its ramdrive to the C drive.
 
    Copy your updated "CDrom.sys" driver for the CD-ROM to C drive too.

  e)Use "Editor" program to make the "autoexec.bat" and "config.sys" file
    and saved into Drive C.

    For <autoexec.bat> file , write the line as:
 
          LOADHIGH C:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001

    For <config.sys> , write the line as:

          DEVICE=C:\HIMEM.SYS
          DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001

    Then in your hard disk C have 5 files now.

2)Then reboot the computer by c drive, run win98 setup in your CDrom.
    <cdrom drive>:\win98\setup   <enter>  to run installation and follow instructions.
 
     If some condition needed: use setup switches to skip some functions.

     Setup Options:  SETUP  [/im] [/id] [/is] [/iq] [/ie] [/ih] [/iv]

      /im            Skips the memory check.
      /id            Ignores the disk-space check.
      /is            Skips the routine system check.
      /iq            Skips the check for cross-linked files.
      /ie            Does not create an Emergency Boot Disk.
      /ih            Skips the registry check.
      /iv            Skips the display of billboards during setup.

  (*)Remember before running "setup" of win98, switch off or disable the virus protection function in your bios at the CMOS setup. Disable booting seeking of drive A or of CDrom or of SCSi. Use boot seek of drive C only in the CMOS setup.
 

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Installing Linux as a Second Operating System
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Linux is almost always installed as a second operating system, and can be installed to any primary or logical partition except for the partition where BootMagic is installed.

It is recommended installing Linux to a logical partition to conserve valuable partition table entries.

To install Linux as a second operating system, to a logical partition, complete the following steps:

 1. Execute PartitionMagic by clicking Start> Programs> PowerQuest PartitionMagic> PartitionMagic 4.0 for Windows 95/98 or NT.

 2. From the Disk drop-down list, select the disk with the Windows 95/98 or NT partition you want to resize/move. (You can also install Linux to a second physical drive.)

 3. Select the Windows 95/98 or NT partition.

 4. Click Operations> Resize/Move on the menu bar, or right-click the partition and click Resize/Move on the context menu.

 5. The Resize/Move dialogue will appear. Place the pointer on the left partition handle.

 6. Click and drag the handle until the Free Space to the right of the existing partition equals the desired size for the Linux installation.

 7. Click on the newly created Free Space.
 
 8. Click Operations> Create on the menu bar, or right-click the Free Space and click Create on the context menu.

 9. The Create Partition Dialogue will appear. In the Create as box click Primary Partition.

10. From the Partition Type drop-down list select Extended.

11. In the Size box make sure that the size reported is equal to the amount of Free Space.

12. Click Ok.

13. Select the Free Space inside of the Extended Partition.

14. Click Operations> Create on the menu bar, or right-click the Free Space and click Create on the context menu.

15. The Create Partition Dialogue will appear. In the Create as box click Logical Partition.

16. From the Partition Type drop-down list select Linux Ext2.

17. In the Size box make sure that the size reported is equal to the amount of Free Space you want to allocate to the Linux Native partition.

18. Select the remaining Free Space inside of the Extended Partition.

19. Click Operations> Create on the menu bar, or right-click the Free Space and click Create on the context menu.

20. The Create Partition Dialogue will appear. In the Create as box click Logical Partition.

21. From the Partition Type drop-down list select Linux Swap.

22. In the Size box make sure that the size reported is equal to the amount of Free Space remaining. (For information on the amount of space to allocate to the Linux Swap partition, consult your Linux documentation.)

23. In the lower right hand corner of the PartitionMagic main window, click Apply.

24. Reboot and install Linux, making sure that LILO is installed to the root superblock (boot sector) of the Linux Native partition, not the master boot record.

25. Run the BootMagic configuration program, and add Linux to its menu.

Note: Do not set up partitions with Linux FDISK or Disk Druid they will render partition tables unreadable to other operating systems. You can use them to change partition types and/or set partition mount points, but that's all.

Also note that Linux 6.0 and 5.2 have three install types, "Server", "Workstation", and "Custom". If the Custom option is not chosen, LILO will be installed to the master boot record.
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Let me know if it is in assistance and solved.      Pslh
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by:pbowne
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Thanks! I really appreciate the step-by-step detail, too.  Sometimes the answers assume I know more and it takes some notes back and forth or more questions to get clear.

This was very clear and I learned something.
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by:Patricia Siu-Lai Ho
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phowne, thank for your A grade.  ;p)   pslh
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by:ashrafsalah
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Dear pslh
your answer is great what a great deal for only 10 points. thanks for your great help for us all.
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by:ashrafsalah
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Dear pslh
your answer is great what a great deal for only 10 points. thanks for your great help for us all.
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by:Patricia Siu-Lai Ho
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ashrafsalah, thank for your compliment. The original question is posted at 100 points. After accepted the answer, only 10% of the 100 points will be remained as PAQ for later viewers who would like to see the thread.

That's why it is now counted as 10 points.

Once again, thanks.    ;p)   pslh
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