Floppy Copy Command

I've lost the right click Floppy Copy command for the Floppy Drives in My Computer and Windows Explorer. It just doesn't come up anymore. Not greyed out, just not there at all. It's also not there under the File menu dropdown anymore.

I've tried most of the typical diagnostics; msinfo32, Tweak UI, etc.

Where do I look to resolve this problem.

Win98, IE4.

Thanks,
Tom
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blueforceCommented:
It sounds like you've lost the 3 1/2 drive under "Send To" when you right click.  If you have, then somehow the shortcut has been deleted from the "Send To" folder under the Windows directory.  

It's easy to replace

Open C:\Windows\Send To
Drag the floppy icon from
My Computer into the folder to
create a shortcut.


   

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clo1Commented:
Sounds like you have the system file corrupted, try to re-install the win98, and it should fix the problem and re create the corrupted system file, or if you don't want to re-install it, try to run "sfc.exe" from win98 and restore the corrupted file.


Hope this help
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dew_associatesCommented:
Or, click Start, Run and type in sendto (one word). Now create a shortcut to the floppy and you're good to go!
Dennis
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prolineAuthor Commented:
blueforce & dew associates;
Your comments didn't help. Floppies A & B reside in Send To Folder and have copy commands but even there the copy command doesn't function. I tried your suggestions, but no go.
Note; the Send To as well as Copy, etc., are gone from the My Computer and Windows Explorer right click, if this helps.

clo1; Good try. I ran sfc.exe and replaced its suggested 6 corrupted files and rebooted, no luck. There are many changed files, as a result of the Microsoft Updates, but I don't know if they are the problem. I didn't mess with those.
I would rather not run the Win98 setup as I would like to know which files it will replace, and it will ask for keeping or replacing newer files it finds, are the ones that I need to replace.

Can you be more specific?? I want to deal with the exact files.

Thanks all,
Tom
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dew_associatesCommented:
Tom, do you have normal access to the floppy drive such as through Windows Explorer etc. I'm wondering if there's a problem with the controller or the floppy PDR file.

Give this a try:

1. Click Start, point to Find, and then click Files Or Folders.
 
2. In the Named box type "hsflop.pdr" (without quotation marks), and then click
   Find Now.
 
3. If the Hsflop.pdr file is found, right-click it, click Rename, and then type
   a new name for the Hsflop.pdr file (such as Hsflop.xxx).
 
   If the Hsflop.pdr file is not found, skip to step 4.
 
4. Quit the Find tool.
 
5. Use the System File Checker tool to extract a new copy of the Hsflop.pdr file
   from your original Windows 98 disks or CD-ROM to the
   <drive>:\windows\system\iosubsys folder, where <drive> is the
   drive on which you installed Windows 98, and <windows> is the folder in
   which you installed Windows 98.


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prolineAuthor Commented:
dew associates;

I replaced the suggested file. No change.

I have full access to the drives and all other functions seem to be normal.
I just can't access the automated copy floppy commands.

I can copy and paste files and label the floppy manually after I've accessed the drive, it's the automatic copy function that has disappeared.

Tom
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prolineAuthor Commented:
A clarificarion;

The help section in Win98 calls it the "Copy Disk" command.

Tom
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prolineAuthor Commented:
A clarificarion;

The help section in Win98 calls it the "Copy Disk" command.

Tom
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prolineAuthor Commented:
Just checking back.
Hey!, why are there two of the same Clarifications both misspelled??

Tom
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dew_associatesCommented:
Do you have tweakui installed?
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prolineAuthor Commented:
Yes, and in anticipation of what you might suggest, I've already run all of the "Repair" Tab routines with no luck. I could be jumping the gun though, so suggest away!!

Tom
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dew_associatesCommented:
Recheck your settings in there, especially any involving your drives.
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prolineAuthor Commented:
dew associates;

Well, so far your the only one responding.

I rechecked my Tweak UI settings and all looks normal. I really didn't see anything that would affect the drives. I saw a list of drives, all checked, under the "My Computer" Tab. I even tried unchecking the A,B drives, rebooting, and rechecking-rebooting them. Nada.

This is getting deep. So far nobody seems to know which files or drivers, etc., control functions like these. Boy, that's the stuff to know, then one could just replace the corrupted or missing ones once identified and be back in business.
The automated checkers haven't done the trick so far.

Tom
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dew_associatesCommented:
I don't really think it's a bad file. I think something changed a setting in the registry or the Bios reported a change to the hardware settings. Can you recall when you first noticed this and whether you've changed anything significant or add a software package recently?
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prolineAuthor Commented:
dew associates;

Ok, I noticed the problem last night when I tried to copy a 3-1/2" disk. I hadn't done this in quite awhile, so backtracking would be most difficult. In fact I run the "ERD" program of Windows allot, ran the oldest copy I had which took the machine back a few weeks to no avail. That program has saved my bacon a few times though when the machine started acting up for no good reason.

The only software updates lately have been the Windows ones off their site.
Ah now, the Registry. I have been in there to clean up some left over stuff, by the book, the Windows Registry Troublshooting Book that is. If I goofed it up there, then that's where I need to go if we can figure out what needs to be done.

If you have any good ideas about that, then lets get to it.

I appriciate your patience in this matter. I hope you know the answer and are just trying to help me help myself to figure this out. If that's not the case, that's OK. We'll both learn for the experience.

Tom
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dew_associatesCommented:
Tom, I understand your predicament, but don't look for an easy answer as there isn't one for this. More than have of the context menus in Win95/98 can be edited, however these particular menus, along with a few others are tied to specific CLSID generated code. So, you could very well have deleted something that effected this code elsewhere.

What you want to try is a reload of 98 over top of the existing install. If you use the setup switches, it is non-destructive and will not overwrite newer files.

Boot to the Win98 setup disk and choose "with cd rom drive support"

Insert the Win98 CD and type:

D:\setup /d /p f<enter>

With "D" being your cd rom drive. This will cause the installer to verify the registry structure.
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harley47Commented:
try replacing the diskcopy.dll file in C:\windows\system

Bill

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prolineAuthor Commented:
harley47;

Tried your suggestion. Sorry didn't work.

dew associates;

Ran setup /d /pf. It crashed in the Setting up Hardware screen with an Explorer shutdown, could not find windows\system\shell32.dll. I reran setup without switches and it went all the way. Where did you find those switches? On my Win98 Upgrade disk if I type setup /? I get (i)something switches available.

None-the-less the rerunning of Win98 setup cured the problem.

I also figured out why the Copy Disk command was going away. It has to do with my parallel port Castlewood ORB Drive and a downloaded latest Travelers drivers disk Ver:12f. Apparantly it is flawed as the older versions I have do not cause this problem. Man what a headache.

I guess you win with that solution. But in all fairness clo1 did suggest reinstalling Win98 as a solution and as it is the solution that ultimitly worked, I think she shoud get some credit. Maybe both clo1 and dew associates splitting the points?? Can that be done??

What say you experts-exchange administrator??
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dew_associatesCommented:
By all means I'll share the points Tom. Always do!
Dennis
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prolineAuthor Commented:
I really appreciate all the input from everybody.

Dennis,
I would have preferred to have delt with the problem at the problem source rather than blanket-blast it with re-running setup but ultimately the problem has been solved. I guess getting that deep into Windows is out the question for the moment.I would have made it an "A" if you could have done that. Otherwise, excellent help.

I take it your not going to tell me about those switches?? I haven't found them on anything I have.

Thanks again.
Tom

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dew_associatesCommented:
Tom,

Sometimes there are issues that are better handled with a reload. While most people remark that Windows 98 is nothing but a repaired 95, it's not true. They just haven't done their research. Everything has changed in the OS to make it more manageable as compared to 95. Yet, there are situations where it is nearly impossible to make a repair without significant risk of severly damaging the underlying operating system. I could have given you the CLSID generator to generate a new CLSID for the menu, however if you had screwed up one alphanumeric character there would have been no patching or fixing and all of the CLSID's would have evaporated.

Unfortunately on an HTML page, the clarity of spacing and character definition is not fine enough to eliminate all of the possible misunderstood characters, and I personally would rather err on the side of safety.

As for the crash you had, did you run setup from a pure MS-DOS prompt by booting to the startup floppy or from within windows? The shell shouldn't have crashed like that from a MS-DOS prompt!

Anyway, there's also no mystery to the setup switches. Here's a URL to review 98% of them. There are a few others, but they are usually relegated to developers and OEM's.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q186/1/11.ASP

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prolineAuthor Commented:
Dennis,

Thanks for the last comments. I hope you aren't miffed by me only giving you a "B". I understand your explanation of the inner workings repair, and now know why it would have been extremely difficult to deal with.

I did boot from the Win98 Startup Floppy, so who knows why it crashed. Typical for me when I'm trying to fix stuff. Flukey at best sometimes.

I saw your deal on giving some points to clo1. Way cool, and thanks for the web site. I'll check it out.

Thanks again,
Tom
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prolineAuthor Commented:
Dennis,

Thanks for the last comments. I hope you aren't miffed by me only giving you a "B". I understand your explanation of the inner workings repair, and now know why it would have been extremely difficult to deal with.

I did boot from the Win98 Startup Floppy, so who knows why it crashed. Typical for me when I'm trying to fix stuff. Flukey at best sometimes.

I saw your deal on giving some points to clo1. Way cool, and thanks for the web site. I'll check it out.

Thanks again,
Tom
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dew_associatesCommented:
Not a problem Tom!
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