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Printer Sharing

I have a home Ehternet network with several Macs.  One of the Macs has an HP 855 Deskjet attached to the printer port.  I want to be able to print to the printer from any Mac on the network.
I've tried loading the latest version of Apple's Localtalk Bridge but it doesn't work at all.  It even screws up local printing.  Anybody got any ideas?
Thanks,
Carey Fisher
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weedCommented:
It sounds like you maybe dont have the ALB set up correctly. I had a setup exactly like this and it worked fine with ALB.
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careyfisherAuthor Commented:
What is an ALB?
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weedCommented:
Apple Localtalk Bridge
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careyfisherAuthor Commented:
Well, there's not much to setup.  Is there a specific order that ALB should be loaded in the control panels?
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weedCommented:
No but if you have the wrong interface set up in the network CP, youre missing important network extensions, etc etc you will have problems with it not working. Theres no reason it wouldnt work if set up properly.
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JlittleCommented:
What version of Local Talk Bridge are you running? The doc. that I have for 2.01 and 2.1 state that LocalBridge is not compatible with Open Transport, the networking software used for IP networks on all newer Macs (system 7.5.5 and later). If you have a control panel named TCP/IP (as opposed to MacTCP) you are running Open Transport. Also, these versions are probably not compatible with OS 8.5/8.6 as there were some major changes in these operating systems from prior versions. Those two versions were the latest versions available on an early 1999 Apple Support Professional CD, and the copyright on the docs. was from 1995, so I don't believe Apple has released any new versions.

 A possible solution, if you have the hardware, is to set up an older Mac, say a 7100, as strictly a Localtalk print server. Place it on the network as you would normally do, make sure that the system installed on it is 7.5.3 or older, and then install ALB on that.
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mls14Commented:
Have you tried just using the printer sharing extension built into your system software?  I used to use that with my stylewriter and I could share it anywhere on an ethernet network.  However, it may not work right with an HP printer which probably has its own driver, print spooler and all (why they do this instead of using apple's built-in printing architecture is beyond me).
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weedCommented:
That printer sharing extension ONLY works with the stylewriter. It will not work with any other printer.
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mls14Commented:
Hmm... Jlittle's idea seems the best in this case.  Unless Epson has another solution for you, you might be stuck doing that.  You may want to check also into any third-party products out there designed for this purpose.  I know that powerprint for networks allows you to print to any PC printer over a network using the ethernet print server they include.  There must be something similar out there for mac printers (try calling infowave).
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weedCommented:
Epson DOES have a solution...but this is an HP printer. You could use birmy power rip but again, that would require a dedicated print server.
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micky556Commented:
Perhaps you might want to try buying a new printer.....
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careyfisherAuthor Commented:
Sounds like the conclusion is that ALB won't work with HP printers.  Anybody disagree?
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careyfisherAuthor Commented:
Also, I've tried using MACTCP (classic networking) instead of TCP/IP (Open Transport) and get the same results.  I think everything is set up OK since the network works fine from/to all peers.
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weedCommented:
Nope...i know ALB works with HP because i used it with one for a long time. What happens when you give both computers clean installs?
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PasBearCommented:
sounds like you need a  dedicated print server  and hook it up to the network (10baseT) IF the printer doesnt support a network set up then I would try Asante MicroPrint to bridge the localtalk printer to the ethernet network.
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derek_yeungCommented:
i'll start from scratch...  hopefully this will help you in your search for answers.  Sorry if this sounds repetitive.

1.  on the computer with internet access and the printer, go to http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11358 and grab the localtalk bridge.  this is unsupported software from apple, however it does work without a glitch.  also this will work with pretty much any version of the mac os.  

2.  when you finished downloading the file, stick it into your control panels folder.  then double-click the localtalk bridge, and enable it.  grant public access.  

3.  restart your computer.

4.  ensure the printer driver is installed on all the computers -- you can get the hp drivers at http://atwnt311.external.hp.com/servlet/FindIt?s=x&t=hp&q=deskjet+855

5.  install the driver on the computers. (if you haven't already done so...)

6.  select the printer driver.  you *should* see it.  

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careyfisherAuthor Commented:
This was a very good step-by-step answer.  As soon as Y2K is over, I'll try these steps.  (I "think" I've done all these things but it's a good idea to start form scratch.)
Thanks Derek.
Carey
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derek_yeungCommented:
Humble thanks.  

I'm certain that the LocalTalk bridging software works with *any* Mac-compatible printer ... ruling out a suggestion that it doesn't...  (i've bridged pretty much anything that a Mac will print to...)

A dedicated print server isn't entirely necessary since you're not in a "mission-critical" situation (or, are you? forgive me if you are...)

....and I'm not sure how the TCP/IP control panel (or the sibling MacTCP) could possibly have anything to do with the situation.

Glad it helped you,
D.Yeung

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Derek Yeung
keroppi@canada.com
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jrfaulknerCommented:
I've had very good luck with the Asante local talk to ethernet bridge.  it's a $99 piece of hardware that connects no just one printer, but an entire localtalk chain of devices to an ethernet network.  This, I believe will give the least amount of headaches in the future because it's all hardware and no software....nothing to be incompatible with later OS releases.
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