Windows NT Server 4.0 Install Problems on Intel 810 Chipset with Celeron 400 MHz Processor


I have a MyFavoritePC computer it works fine running Windows 98.
Using a separate Harddrive (Western Digital Model WDC AC14300R 4GB) I have tried but been unable to install and run Windows NT Server 4.0 on the computer.
I have tried Installing Windows NT Server 4.0 on a 2048 MB NTFS Partition on c: directory \WINNT
I have tried to use all the default setting when possible.

When the Install setup is on step 3.  Finishing Setup
the blue STOP: screen occurs some of the info from the screen

*** STOP: 0x0000000A (0x00090028,
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL                  ntoskrnl.exe

I tried several times to install this and get to this point each time

I put the hard drive on a different HP Vectra 5 series computer.
I was able to install Windows NT Server 4.0 on a 2048 MB NTFS Partition on c: directory \WINNT
using the HP Vectra 5 series computer.
I then installed Service Pack 5.0

I tried to use this harddrive on the MyFavoritePC computer.

I could not get the computer to boot.
I was hoping to get to a point where I could install from the CD drivers for this computers specific devices obviously there are some differences from the HP Vectra 5 Series which does boot properly
This is where the computer stops in the boot process

Bus no.      Device No.      Func No.      Vender ID      Device ID                        IRQ
0      1            0            8086            7121            Display Controller      3
0      31            1            8086            2421            IDE Controller            14
0      31            2            8086            2422            Serial Bus            10
0      31            5            8086            2425            Multimedia Device      11
0      31            6            8086            2426            Simple Comm. Controller      11
0      5                                    2429            Network Controller      5
1                                                      ACPI Controller            0

Verifying DMI Pool Data
Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM:

Heres some further specifics on the computer with the problem.
Please provide the following information:
Processor Type:                              Intel Celeron
Processor Speed:                        400 MHz
Revision of Motherboard BIOS:                  
      From the BIOS ID Utility (recommended) www.unicore.com
      BIOS ID:                        6A69MF09C-00
      BIOS TYPE:                        Award Software Inc.
      BIOS DATE:                        8/11/1999
      CHIPSET ID:                        i810-47B27X
      OEM INFO:                        Version: VB4200 ROM - NOT FO
Megabytes of System RAM:                  64 MB
Graphics Driver Version:                  Intel 810 Chipset Graphics Driver
Desktop Resolution (ex. 800x600):            1024x768
Desktop Color Depth (ex. 16-bit):            True Color (24 bit)
Desktop Refresh Rate (ex. 75 Hz):            Not Sure
      Display Driver:                        I81X.VXD
      Display Driver Information:            4.11.01.1272
      Chip Manufactor:                  Intel
      Video BIOS Version:                  02.10
      Memory Size:                        2 MB
      Microsoft DirectX Version;            4.06.03.0518      
List any PCI or ISA Cards Installed:            
      Intel Ether Express PRO/100 B PCI 100 Base-TX, 10 BaseT
      AMR Voice Modem
Are you overclocking your processor?            No


I also tried to use this harddrive on an older computer pentium 120 MHz processor.

This is where the computer stops in the boot process
(note I'll have to review this data if someone thinks it could help solve the problem)

Bus no.      Device No.      Func No.      Vender ID      Device ID                        IRQ
                                                      Display Controller      
                                                      IDE Controller            


Are there drivers specific to Windows NT for this computer and Chipset that will enable it to install and run Windows NT Server 4.0 properly?
If so where can I get the drivers and how are they installed?

Is it possible to do a Windows NT Server 4.0 install on one computer and move the harddisk to another computer and load drivers specific to that computer from CD ROM or floppy when prompted by the operating system not detecting the correct drivers?

I also posted this to
http://intelforums.com/cgi-bin/WebX.fcgi?13@54.WneEavSYaUX^4@.ee725f3

If you have an answer can you also let me know at mheinric@isd.net
Thanks
mike11Asked:
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CAFCommented:
are you trying to install this on a system that has another operating system on it
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GalCommented:
Whow! way too much info there!
The quick answer is No, you cannot transfer an installed NT to another machine just by taking the drive and placing it there. This might work if you do it on two machines with the exact same hardware configuration, but is hopeless (at least almost) otherwise.
try again to install the server on your machine, and pay a bit more attention to the error that it gives (on the blue screen) - particularly the first 3 lines. please note them here EXACTLY as shown, and we might be able to help you more.
This kind of error usually means one of the adapters in your machine is acting up (but can also relate to other issues). try installing without the Network card, or any other unnecessary cards.  See if that helps and get back to us.
Gal.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Also, note the file(s) listed on the bottom right corner of the screen - the screen itself (at the bottom area) should have several rows with columns of numbers/letters (hex memory addresses) and the last column should contain file names.  based on what you said before, you should see several entries for "ntoskrnl" and will probably see one or two other file names listed - what are they?  ATAPI.SYS?  WIN32K.SYS?  Another file entirely?  This is generally the file(s) that are having trouble.
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ravenoneCommented:
Gal is right in his last statement.

When installing an operating system, you should remove any nonvital cards. Pull out the network, modem, and sound card, then fdisk and reinstall.  Once the basic install is done, then you can start adding the other cards, one at a time.  

The only thing issue I see in your settings is the display controller on IRQ3.  I've never seen a display controller use IRQ3, so you might want to check your BIOS and see if the PCI devices are manually set to different IRQs.  Win98, being pnp, might be able to use it there, I don't know.  If it is a BIOS setting that's wrong, you should see the IRQ3 used in 98.

Good luck.
-Tabo
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LermitteCommented:
Remove your network card and install NT Server you can choose for the ms loopback adapter and install the networkcard later. I Think that your networkcard is the bootleneck..

Mario
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bjornurCommented:
This is the easiest way!
Remove win98 and all of your special cards etc. If you want to have a dual boot with win98, format the c: partiton to FAT16. Then install WINNT to C:. Add all your extra gear after you have installed service pack 3 (better up 4 or 5.)  Dont use SP6 yet, not even SP6a.
When your NT installation is working fine (it will) you can install win98 and have a dual boot(all by itself). Win98 is not working under NTFS and NT doesn´t work under FAT32.
If you want to have NTFS or FAT32 you have to place the installtions on different drives with NT on drive C:
But then you will have access problems on your datafiles from drive to drive.
There are other ways to it (windows commander etc.) But this is the easiest way.
best regards

/Bjorn
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mike11Author Commented:
Thanks to all who posted suggestions.  I go NT Server Installed and even learned alittle the hard way.  This is what I believe the problem was and is.  There is a 56K Modem that comes with the computer and is cheap.  I'm told it uses the CPU to do some of the processing as opposed to unboard processing.  I took that and the Intel 10 100 Networking card out and reformated with NTFS on a 2048 MB Partion on c:\WINNT everything seems to work.  I will install Service Pack 5 Tonight.

Gal Had the correct answer to both my questions.  SO to review

1.  You cannot move aHarddrive with NT Server installed to another disimilar computer and expect it to boot up properly.

2.  Weird errors on install are often due to hardware conflicts so as Gal said remove cards, hardware where possible if install errors appear.

2.1. Sometimes (as was the case here) the Blue screen error codes do not get to the real issue at hand and can be a misleading avenue of troubleshooting.

3.  On the discussion of Dual boot systems, if it was not clear I did not set up a dual boot system in this particular question.  In general I only use dual boot on Software install test machines that are not critical to software developemet or in this case running a server.  I also have a report from a friend that Windows 98 NT dual boot did no work.  In general I recommend against dual boot except for test machines.

4.  Apparantly Plug and Play (PnP) does not have to be turned off to overcome these install errors at least in this case.  There was not a way to turn PnP off for this particular computer.

5.  On using dual boot I have done this is for a FAT32 formated hardrive with 2 partitions with Windows 95 installed 1st and windows NT Workstation installed on the d: partition.  See Microsoft 95 Resorce kit, Page 225 Installing Windows 95 for Dual Boot with Windows NT.

The entry BootMulti=1 needs to be set in the Windows 95 version of MSDOS.SYS file in the root directory of the startup drive.

6.  Note that NTFS cannot start up with a MDOS type boot disk nor can fdisk (at least the version I have format a drive for NTFS) basically when NTFS is used you cannot use the DOS tools to startup and go in and correct files.
A review of file systems  NTFS, FAT32, FAT16 is needed on the site.

7.  On NT Service packs.  Presently NT Service Pack 5 is the preferred one to use.  NT SP 4 should be avoided from what I have heard.  I used NT SP 3 for a long time on a server without problems.  If you are installing a service pack an update Emergency Repair Disk should be made.  If you are going to install a SP on a NT computer that uses HASP hardware key locks (dongle) (for image processing packages for instance) you need to make sure that the HASP driver is version 3.7 or later (see Q197279) on Microsoft KnowledgeBase.

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GalCommented:
Glad to have been of help, mike.
Gal.
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