changing a program icon

In win98 how do you change a folder or program icon?  I know that you can change the desktop icons through the settings - effects panel, but what about regular subfolders and files?

I don't need to create the icon, but rather copy and paste the icon from one to another.

Thanks,

mcneil
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majusConnect With a Mentor Commented:
Dew, some .exe files have the icons imbedded in them instead of referencing them from .dll files.  granted, icons can be referenced from .dll files but not always.  I've seen programs rely on .ico files and i've seen them rely on .dll files and i've seen them imbedded right in the .exe files also.
download microangelo and open an .exe file like scandskw.exe and you'll see that it's imbedded into the .exe.  This is what he's wanting to accomplish but I don't know the specifics of the programming part.  I do know that some icon editors will let you edit imbedded icons and save them... how they get imbedded in the first place, I dunno.
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LermitteCommented:
Everytime that you rightclick on the files and folders you have the option properties and there you can change icon...

Mario
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mcneilAuthor Commented:
Huh?

I know how to get into the properties, but from there how do I change that icon?  Attempting to copy and paste or click on anything has failed.  Could you describe how it's done?

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LermitteCommented:
Shortcut change icon...browse choose all files and you can search for the icon that you want simple click on the file where the icon is and the icon is imported to a preview pane click there on the icon that you want.

Mario
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mcneilAuthor Commented:
I don't have anything like "shortcut change icon" in my properties window, or any function to browse the files with.  I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing...

I right click the file i want to change and I select "properties" from the pop up window.  What i see is the icon in the top left, and a bunch of un-editable information, at the bottom there is the 4 checkboxes for the files properties (hidden, system, archive,etc...).  There's nothing on this page about changing the icon.  This is win98

Thanks for all you help on this... I've increased the points for your effort...

-mcneil
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LermitteCommented:
You right I have see it here on shortcuts you can change the icon on files and folders not. I will see for a sollution, tomorrow! it's here in Europe now 00 AM here and I go sleeping...

A quick look:

2 on the Program Manager File menu, click Properties.
 
3. Click the Change Icon button.
 
4. Click OK when you receive the following error message:
 
   The path "%1" is invalid.
 
   Microsoft is researching this problem and will post new information here in
   the Microsoft Knowledge Base as it becomes available.
 
5. Type the path to the icon you want to use or select an icon from the choices
   given, then click OK.


Maybee some 3e party software can do this

Mario
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mcneilAuthor Commented:
Huh?

I know how to get into the properties, but from there how do I change that icon?  Attempting to copy and paste or click on anything has failed.  Could you describe how it's done?

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smeebudCommented:
DomI understand that you want to change (let's say) one folders/directiries icon??

Or Are you talking about a files icon, these being in you Explorer File manager??

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mcneilAuthor Commented:
No, not folders, just files.
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dew_associatesCommented:
McNeil, this will depend largely on the type of file for which you want to change the icon. As an example, files ending in doc (mcneil.doc), will usually have a MS Word icon or one belonging to Wordpad. Pictures ending in BMP, JPG, GIF etc, will generally reflect the icon for the program that is used to view them. As an example, on most machines BMP picture files are opened in MS Paint, and therefore have the MS Paint icon.

Which icon that is associated with which file is normally a function of the Windows file associations as a rule. There are some that can be changed and others that cannot. Also, let's say you had ten word documents and you wanted to change the icon for one of them, that couldn't be done, as the file association would have to be changed, which would change the icons for all word documents.

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Dennis
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calacucciaCommented:
Hi mcneill,

if you want to do it despite Dennis' comment (he is absolutely right), go to Windows Explorer/View/Options/ Tab File Types

In there you find the list with all extension associations, now if you want to modify, for example the Word .doc files, scroll down until you find it, select it,
click Edit button and in the opened dialog box, select the change icon button, which will allow you to look for other icons installed/present on our PC.

You are not able to create separate icons for files with the same extension, something you could think of on the other hand is create a new not existing type of extension and give a set of files very specific icons (e.g a set of .doc Word files, give an extension .try, and set the attributes identical to those of the .doc files in the Edit dialog box in which you select a specific icon.)

Once you have defined such a new extension type, all files with .try extension will get automaticlly this specific icon.

Cheers, Calacuccia
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mcneilAuthor Commented:
Hmm.... I see.  Well, I'm doing this in two curcumstances.  One is a Macromedia Director movie I programmed, the other is a Visual basic program I made.  Now I KNOW from having seen other VB and Director programs from other people, that there is a way to make your own icon for these things... although I'm not sure how, because doesn't the VB program HAVE to be an ".exe" and so forth?  I can't rename their extensions.

Also, if I'm just changing the icon "association" on my machine, will that icon carry over to other machines it's distributed on?

I had no idea this was going to be as complicated as this... *sigh*... gotta love the old mac... [copy icon, paste icon... done].

thanks again,

mcneil
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dew_associatesCommented:

"because doesn't the VB program HAVE to be an ".exe" and so forth?"

Yes!

"I can't rename their extensions. "

No

"Also, if I'm just changing the icon "association" on my machine, will that icon carry over to other machines it's distributed on?"

No, this would only apply to your machine!

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mcneilAuthor Commented:
Adjusted points to 75
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mcneilAuthor Commented:
well then how are these icons for different programs distributed?  There HAS to be a way. I mean the PROGRAM microsoft Word has it's own icon... EVERY program has it's own specific icon (mostly).  How is this defined?  

Thanks a bunch!

mcneil
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dew_associatesCommented:
Most predefined icons are found in the DLL's that are stored on your system and equated with the file associations in the registry.

As for the CB program, you may be able to imbed an icon, but I'm not certain of that as this is not my area of expertise. As for Macromedia Director, the opening normally includes special characteristics that define the creator.
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majusCommented:
some icon editors like microangelo will let you edit an icon in an .exe file and even save the changed icon.  icons can be .ico or in .dll or .exe files.
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dew_associatesCommented:
Majus, "some icon editors like microangelo will let you edit an icon in an .exe file and even save the changed icon." This is true only to a certain extent. You would need to transport not only the executible but also the corresponding DLL that contains the icon file referred to.
Dennis
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majusCommented:
Dew, some .exe files have the icons imbedded in them instead of referencing them from .dll files.  granted, icons can be referenced from .dll files but not always.  I've seen programs rely on .ico files and i've seen them rely on .dll files and i've seen them imbedded right in the .exe files also.
download microangelo and open an .exe file like scandskw.exe and you'll see that it's imbedded into the .exe.  This is what he's wanting to accomplish but I don't know the specifics of the programming part.  I do know that some icon editors will let you edit imbedded icons and save them... how they get imbedded in the first place, I dunno.
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dew_associatesCommented:
I don't understand how Majus' comment was accepted when at the conclusion he specifically states he doesn't know how they imbed this information etc.
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mcneilAuthor Commented:
Dew,

Sorry,  I really appreciate your help, but Majus was the only one to point me in a direction to actually DO this.  Everyone else just said something to the effect that they don't know how they get put into the .dlls or .exe or whatever.   By looking into the microangelo software I can at least figure it out.

(If it make you feel any better I didn't give him a high score :-).


Thanks to everyone for your help.

-mcneil
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dew_associatesCommented:
McNeil, points and socre really don't mean much to me, but correct information does. Based upon your posts, I was not aware that you were willing to delve into the programming side of this.
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majusCommented:
thanx i guess... but didn't really deserve points or a grade on that one... they were just comments
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