Monitor Resolution with Voodoo 3 PCI

I have a Vision Master Pro 17 which is capable of 1600 x 1200 resolution, but for some reason it will only do 1280 x 1024.
I have a Voodoo 2000 PCI which should be capable of doing well over my current resolution.
I have a k6-2 350 and 64 meg of ram.
PLEASE HELP
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chewymonCommented:
Check your refresh rate.  You might start by setting it to "adapter default" instead of "optimal".
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Somebody_elseCommented:
the main reason is that 17' monitors do not support more than 1280 x 1024. I have only seen 1600x1200 resolution supported in 19' and above monitors and 1280x1024 is the max for 17'. resolution is determined by 2 things, your monitor and your video card, you will only be able to run at the highest of one of these(ie if you monitor can only support a maximum of 1024x768 no matter how high your video card goes your monitor will only display 1024x768).
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
Ok if you would actually read my question you would see clearly what I said. OK according to the manufacturers documentation it is capable of 1600 x 1200. And I have a voodoo 3 which is capable of well beyond that.

And as for your comment about you only seeing 19 inch monitors capable of 1600 x 1200 I totally disagree, according to the manual and the specs on the actual monitor itself it it supposed to do 1600 x 1200.

I have also done a bit of research checking up other companies on the web building 17" monitors and their are plenty that have the maximum resolution of 1600 x 1200.
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Somebody_elseCommented:
I saw that you said your monitor was capable of 1600x1200 but i had never seen one that was actually capable of this,(I too have done some research) therefore I thought you were mistaken, geez sooo touchy. sorry I couldn't help.
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Somebody_elseCommented:
oh yeah, one more thing, check and make sure that windows has correctly identified your monitor, you would do this by right clicking on the desktop and choose properties then choose the setting tabs and press the advanced button, there will be a tab that says monitor click on that tab and see if it is correctly identified with the same name and model that is in your specification sheet. if it is not then you will need to get the driver(yes monitor can have drivers) from the manufactuer and install it in order for windows to see the full capabilities of your monitor beacuse windows default maximum resolution for a 17' is 1280x1024.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
Sorry for being so touchy.

Ok check out this link http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/hardware/1517/mon128.htm

It is a review of the monitor that I have and has some technical specifications. And it appears that windows does detect the monitor as the correct name, and I do have the latest drivers for it.

Thanks.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
Ok another comment

I descovered that the documentation mentions that the monitor is capable of 1280x1024 in interlaced mode, and 1600x1200 in non-interlaced mode.

Ok I know the differences in terms of what the monitor does between the two, but how could I possibly change the settings if I can.

Thanks
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chewymonCommented:
Check your refresh rate.  It has to be set at 72Hz or less to display 1600x1200.

The unit boasts the highest scan ranges here and can display 1,600-by-1,200 resolution at 72 Hz or 1,280-by-1,024 at 85 Hz.
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chewymonCommented:
If it is set at 85Hz, you will be limited to 1280x1024.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
Sorry but that didn't work either, still the same resolution restriction
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chewymonCommented:
The documentation doen't tell you how to change from interlaced to non-interlaced? That's strange.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
Someone has said to me that the monitor is probably already preset to non-interlaced. So according to him its not the problem with the interlace but the driver, ok this is realy confusing me now.
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chewymonCommented:
Non-interlaced is pretty much the standard, so he might be right.

What version of windows are you running?

In Win98, go to Display Properties>Swettings tab>Advanced button

See if the voodoo card is being properly recognized.  Then set the refresh rate to about 65 and the color to 16 bit.

If this is all correct and does not cure the problem. go to Device Manager.

On the Performance tab,  click the Graphics button.  Tuen the Hardware Acceleration down a notch or two and wee if that cures it.

If not, we'll dig deeper.
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chewymonCommented:
BTW, how much video RAM do you have?

The general formula at 75Hz is:

(pixelsxpixelsxcolor bits)/8

Therefore:

(1600x1200x24)/8=5,760,000 bytes just to light up the screen.  Then each icon takes a few KB, wallpaper takes some more.  You can see where it goes rapidly.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
I have 16 meg of video RAM, and sorry but the change in refresh rate did not seem to work. Still the same restrictions.
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Somebody_elseCommented:
try setting your display to 256 colors and see if you can get the 1600x1200 resolution, the higher the diplay colors the higher the demand on your video memory, btw unless you have a pentium2 600mhz or athalon 600 or higher mhz your game play will be too choppy for any real enjoyment (with an athalon 600 at 1600x1200 using a Geforce256 nvidia card (32mg and 2 geometry processors)they were only able to get about 32fps so any hardware config less than this will probably only yield about 10-15 fps=unplayable and with your config this is probably all you'll yeild) non-interlaced is the standard because interlaced is very old tech now, the only change you would probably be able to do is change to interlaced mode(not wanted).
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chewymonCommented:
You commented that you had the latest drivers for the monitor.  How about the adapter?  It definitely is capable of 1600x1200.

I wonder if this is a misprint?  Usally you can get higher resolutions in inter-laced mode, due to only half the screen being painted at one time.

1280x1024 in interlaced mode, and 1600x1200 in non-interlaced mode.



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Jason_SCommented:
When you try to adjust the display properties, what is the highest resolution that your video card will let you select?  (1280X1024?)
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jgagneCommented:
Doesn't interlaced only work with 43 & 47 Hertz?  My PC in an NT workstation that shows all of the settings and only the above two show interlaced.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
Yes Jason that is the highest the display will go to
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chewymonCommented:
If 1280x1024 is all that the video card will show, that is all you are going to get.  What version of the voodoo are you using.  The ones I checked the specs for say 1600x1200.  If this is the version you have, then it would seem to be a configuration or driver problem.  We need to get that solved before we can hope to get a higher resolution on the monitor.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
I have a voodoo 3 2000 PCI which is capable of 2048x1600 at its highest resolution, but I would imagine you need at least a 21" monitor for that.
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Jason_SCommented:
I believe this setting is derived from both the video, and monitor settings.  If this is 95/98, boot to Safe Mode, and remove both the video and monitor drivers (there may be more than one instance of each).  Then reboot, and reinstall the drivers.
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geezgeezAuthor Commented:
I tried what you suggested Jason but still I idnt have any luck, I even went so far as to formatting my hard drive and then reinstalling the drivers.
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Jason_SCommented:
Well, that rules out a corrupted file.

Try changing the monitor driver to another, and see if the available settings change.

Again, you do have the latest monitor, and video drivers?
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Somebody_elseCommented:
what is the highest possible resolution at 256 colors with a refresh rate of 65hz?
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boom23Commented:
I've read all the comments and it seems like geez haven't tried the changes of color display, you've only tried the refresh rate. Set your color as low as 256 color. hum....
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Alisher_NCommented:

change a monitor type in windows to another one (actually any of 21"),
for example sone multyscan 20se
you will get another options for resolutions, frequences etc...

but be carefull, if you put it to some extra state and monitor can not handle it - you may even damage it (actually never heard of these to happen, but just in case ;-)... and I am not responsible for damages!

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Alisher_NCommented:
ps. that's what I did MANY times and it DID worked just fine ;-)
pps. I want my 1000! ;-)))))


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compmaniaCommented:
If you are still here try removing all the system devices in device manager then restart.
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compmaniaCommented:
Well geezgeez?
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lordzolaCommented:
I would suggest you to isolate the problem into
1. monitor is not capable (even the spec state it does, it might be defective monitor)
2. Your video card
3. your driver problem.

It might be a bit hard for you to archive this. But I usually isolate the problem first.

What you can try:-

1. Plug your PC into a monitor that for sure can handle 1600x1200. Check with your friends

2. Plug your card into another PC using your own monitor.

3. Use some video card utilities. e.g. powerstripe

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ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/3dfiles/utility/psbeta.exe
http://ftp.telepac.pt/pub/3dfiles/utility/psbeta.exe


Hope this can helpl you!
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Somebody_elseCommented:
compmania
trying to get the free points eh?
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compmaniaCommented:
Trying to get geezgeez back, sometimes it works and other times it does not.
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Somebody_elseCommented:
sure sure,  

8-)
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