Networkng problems

I have connected my two PC's with ethernet cards and a hub etc. and followed all the steps given in the manuals. Now I do see in the network neighborhood the two PC's clearly also I can see the various drives, partitions folders etc. However, whenever I tried to copy one from the other.. i get error. It says such drive does not exist of words similar to it.

I checked the sharing etc. all appear to be ok. I gave full permission on both computers for file sharing. And I have also mapped drives like for ex.. L = \\volrath\c, M=\\volrath\d etc. and repeated it on both computers. So the drives have to be getting mapped correctly. HOwever, i noticed, it lets me do only mapping for C and D of volrath but not the partitions E, F, and G on volrath computer. I dont know why it wont allow because I specially made sure that all partitions are given full access.

Majus and pslh, if you see this question, you are already familiar with my systems. You helped me previously with my problems.. and this is the last step in my set up. See if you can help me with this too.

I am slightly modifying the question. I am not able to successfully copy files using only the TCP/IP protocol. Do I really need other protocols to achieve that?

Thanks in advance.
falcon051997Asked:
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
Hi falcon,

First click the My computer, make certain all drives have a sharing hand under the drive icons. Select each drive and click the File-sharing. Make certain that it is configured to be [x] Shared As: with a Share Name.
[x] Full Access type.
 
Try to disconnect all mappings on both machines.

Go to the control panel, network icon,  select the “Client for Microsoft Networks” component. Click the [properties] button. Unchecked and checked the boxes as followings: -
[ ] Log on to Windows NT domain
[ ] Quick logon
[x] Logon and restore networks connections.

Click OK.

Restart both the computers and login as Client of microsoft and entering a logon password.

Open a windows explorer, at the bottom of the left pane, expand the network Neighborhood icon, you will see both PC’s name. Further expand it, all the shared drives with shared name will be expanded in folders format.
E.g.  volrath PC
           | -- volrath_C
           | -- volrath_D
           | -- volrath_E
           | -- volrath_F
           | -- volrath_G
         
Further expand the folder, you will get its directories and files.
Select the files in volrath_E and drag it to the current PC’ hard disk (e.g. Falcon_C ) in the windows explorer.

It will then be copied from volrath_E to Falcon_C.

Let me know if it worked or not.       pslh
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falcon051997Author Commented:
I checked everything as you suggested.

I checked the file sharing props. and as you mentioned the logon and restore network connections is the only one checked on both PC's.

I do see all the shared drives and I also see the folder, contents etc.. everything.. but it just does not copy anything from one to other.

P.S. However under sharing props.. I notice it says shared as "C", shared as "D" etc.. .. Should it say shared as "\\volrath\C", "\\volrath\D" instead? I am not sure.

The shared drives look like this "C on 'volrath'" M:  and "D on 'Volrath' " N:

But only those two I can see even though there are E:, F:, G: also on volrath PC. But it does not matter, atleast I see a couple of them.
I also see the same type of stuff on my other PC... like "C on 'Falcon" " C: etc etc...

I do see hand underneath every shared drive.

Falcon

I am pretty sure I am very close to finishing the network connections but something is still missing somewhere along.
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jsextonCommented:
What brand network cards /hub are you using?  I was using a Realtek to communicate with a IBM Etherjet card, and got the errors you are mentioning.  Sometimes it would even start copying, but never got very far before giving me the "drive does not exist" error.  Downloading new drivers did not help, either.

I replaced the Realtek card with a higher-quality LinkSys and have had no trouble whatsoever since.

Jon
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falcon051997Author Commented:
COmment jsexton:
I am using linkSys. It has worked a few days ago pretty good. No problem, then I had a series of other unrelated problems with my PC's so I had to debug them all and now I am trying to reestablish everything..  

I do get the same error as you mentioned though. However, howcome I see everything, the drives, folders, the files etc etc.. and ony when I try to copy, it takes a long time and finally gives up saying drive does not exist message.
Falcon
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
falcon, eg. falcon Pc-how many drives there? Another PC 'volrath"-how many drives there?    pslh
       
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falcon051997Author Commented:
comment pslh:

Falcon Pc: two hard disks... and a bunch of partitions.. i believe they are numbered ike C, D, E,F,G,H...

VOlrath PC: one hard disk. and a bunch of partitions... like C, D, E,F,G.

and Falcon pc has two CD roms, and volrath has 1 cd rom.

Falcon
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
Falcon,
Suggest set for 2 computers as: -
(1)  Go to fix the cdrom drives using an assigned drive letter after the hard disk last letter.
       Start the computer to safe mode, go to the control panel, device manager and expand the cdrom,
       Select the cdrom. Click the properties, Settings Tab.      
       Falcon Pc: hard disk letter C, D, E, F, G, H and two CDroms with letter assigned as I and J.
                       Cdrom-1  Start drive letter: [I], End drive letter: [I]
                       Cdrom-2  Start drive letter: [J], End drive letter: [J]
       VOlrath Pc: hard disk letter C, D, E, F, G  and one CDroms with letter assigned as H.
                       Cdrom-1  Start drive letter: [H], End drive letter: [H]
 
       Restart the computer.        
 
(2)  Go to the control panel, system, performance, File system: -  

       "Hard Disk" Tab- make certain the "Desktop computer" with Full Read-ahead optimization is set to "Full".
       "Removable Disk" Tab - checked the box [x] Enable write-behind caching on all removable disk drives.

       Click Apply and OK. Restart the computer and logon to normal mode again.

In Win98-Win98 LAN, there is no need to map network drives with local drive letter.
You can copy, transfer and open files using windows explorer as I described as above-mentioned.

However, if you would like to map drives with local drive letters, do it as followings: -
For mapping the drives: -

At the desktop of Pc "volrath",  My computer, select the drive to be shared with and drag down File-sharing,
Select the [x] Shared As :
Share Name: [v_C    ]         <-- for e.g. volrath  C drive
Share Name: [v_D    ]         <-- for e.g. volrath  D drive
Share Name: [v_E    ]         <-- for e.g. volrath  E drive  
Share Name: [v_F    ]         <-- for e.g. volrath  F drive
Share Name: [v_G    ]         <-- for e.g. volrath  G drive
Share Name: [v_cd   ]         <-- for e.g. volrath  H drive - cdrom.
With "Full" access Type.

Go to the Network Neighborhood. Click the computer icon of "volrath". You can see folders named "v_C", "v_D", "v_E", "v_F", "v_G", "v_cd".

Go to the Pc "Falcon" desktop "My computer", select the drive to be shared with and drag down File-sharing,
Select the [x] Shared As :
Share Name: [F_C      ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  C drive
Share Name: [F_D      ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  D drive
Share Name: [F_E      ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  E drive  
Share Name: [F_F      ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  F drive
Share Name: [F_G      ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  G drive
Share Name: [F_H      ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  H drive
Share Name: [Fcd-I     ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  I drive - cdrom 1.
Share Name: [Fcd_J    ]         <-- for e.g. falcon  J drive - cdrom 2.
with "Full" access Type.

Go to the Network Neighborhood. Click the computer icon of "Falcon". You can see folders named "F_C", "F_D", "F_E", "F_F", "F_G",  "F_H",  "Fcd-I", "Fcd-J".

Establishing the mapping: -

At the Pc "Falcon".
Go to the Network Neighborhood. Click the computer icon of "volrath" to expand it. You can see folders named "v_C".... Select the folder "v_C". Drag down the menu-file-Map Network drive. Click to open the "Map Network Drive" window. It starts from the first available drive letter K to drive letter Z.
Path is stated as :  \\volrath\v_C  
Select the drive [L   ]  
[x] Reconnect at logon
Click OK.

Select the folder  "v_D" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [M],
Select the folder  "v_E" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [N],
Select the folder  "v_F" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [O],
Select the folder  "v_G" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [P],  
Select the folder  "v_cd " , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [Q],

Once mapped, you can see in the windows explorer that additional mapped drives L,M,O,P,Q can be found.


At the Pc "volrath".
Go to the Network Neighborhood. Click the computer icon of "falcon" to expand it, you can see folders named "F_C".... Select the folder  "F_C" . Drag down the menu-file-Map Network drive. Click to open the "Map Network Drive" window. It starts from the first available drive letter I to drive letter Z.
Path is stated as :  \\falcon\F_C  
Select the drive [L   ]  
[x] Reconnect at logon
Click OK.

Select the folder  "F_D" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [M],
Select the folder  "F_E" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [N],
Select the folder  "F_F" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [O],
Select the folder  "F_G" , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [P],  
Select the folder  "F_H " , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [Q],
Select the folder  "Fcd-I " , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [R],
Select the folder  "Fcd-J " , repeat steps as above and assigned the drive [S],

Once mapped, you can see in the windows explorer that additional mapped drives L,M,O,P,Q,R,S can be found.

Before shut down either one of the computers, go to disconnect all the mapped drives. Otherwise, you will get boot up problem next time.

Next time, when the computer restarts, it will reconnect at logon.

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Try and tell me what was happened.    pslh
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falcon051997Author Commented:
comment pslh:

I am sorry to inform you nothing worked so far. I do notice however, when I try to copy  a small text file for ex. autoexec.bat, it seems to work sometimes.
By and large, it simply does not work. I keep getting the same error, that the network device is no longer available or words to that effect.
I will work on it somemore later this evening and let you know if there is any improvement.
Falcon
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
falcon, Have you add the IP address as previously mentioned in another question in the protocol TCP/IP-> network card? Please remove them and set it as [x] Obtain an IP address automatically.

At the WINS Configuration Tab,
[x] Use DHCP for WINS Resolution.

Inspect the Bindings Tab of TCP/IP-> network card
[x] Client for Microsoft Networks
[x] File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks.

----
You may try to add the protocol in both computer of "Microsoft", IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol.

Then you can find two protocols installed too.

IPX/SPX -> DialUp Adapter
IPX/SPX -> network card

In some computer, IPX/SPX do help in transfer large files.

If deemed necessary, you may select the protocol of IPX/SPX-> network card, click the properties and go to the NetBIOS Tab, checked the box for
[x] I want to enable NetBIOS over IPS/SPX

Test again.
Try and let me know what happens.   pslh
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falcon051997Author Commented:
comment pslh;
I did add the IP addresses etc.. as was suggested in the previous question.
I will try your suggestions tonight and let you know what happened.
Thanks.
falcon
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falcon051997Author Commented:
Edited text of question.
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falcon051997Author Commented:
comment to pslh:

I tried with out specifying the iP address. It takes for ever to boot up and with the same result in the end. It cannot copy.

I noticed everytime I click on "volrath" computer, it right aways shows the drives, folders etc. However, if I pick a single file, right click and click on props. tab., it takes a good two to three minuter (during which everything is frozen) and finally does not show anything.

Also, if I copy a simple file it does copy, only after taking first a good two to three minutes..

If I chose to copy a huge folder with several megs of files, then after two to three minutes, it gives up saying the networked divice is nolonger available etc..

Something is definitely wrong with the way i have configured my network card etc..

falcon
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
falcon,
Try to check with two computers' network card. If you have installed the update patches for the network cards.

Try to remove the TCP/IP->network card
in both machine. Install the IPX/SPX -> network card in both machine.

Leave the TCP/IP-> Dialup adapter.

Inspect again.


 
 
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falcon051997Author Commented:
Comment to Pslh:

I obtained latest drivers from the manufacturers' webpage. Then i removed the devices and reinstalled everything from scratch. I tried then no change. same old problems.

So i went for the next suggestion. I installed ipx/spx compatible and net/beui too.

Then I started once again. When I click on "volrath" under the network neighborhood icon and tried to copy once again same problem. However, if I clicked the mapped drives and then copy, it is working fine. ( may be it was all along working if I did just this..)

Anyway, I tried to map all the drives of Volrath then. It has C;, D;, E;, F;, G:... However, it let me map only C; and D; and would not let me map anything else.

I tried to do every thing from volrath computer too. I mapped only one drive there. but no matter what i cant copy anything from Falcon to volrath.

So, Overall some progress made.. but lots of questions still unanswered.

Observations.. changing the drivers etc did not do anything. The versions of drivers Ihad were already the latest ones.

Adding protocols Ipx/Spx also did not appear to be beneficial since I can not copy to volrath from falcon.

Falcon.
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
Falcon, Try following steps to tune-up both machines.

(1) Go to the control panel, system, device manager, expand all devices including System devices.
      Select each of them and take note of the driver's date.
      Write down all devices in a computer notebook.
      If the computer has installed win98, driver date should be about 05-11-98.
      If the computer has installed win98SE, driver date should be about 04-23-99.
     
      Restart the computer into safe-mode. Go to the device manager and expand all devices including the system devices. Inspect if there are multiple entries of devices with the same name. If there are multiples entries, click the properties to see the driver date. If there are 2 entries one with date of 05-11-98 and another with date of 04-23-99, select the entry with date 05-11-98 and click remove.
      It eliminates all duplicate entry of devices, which may lead to conflicts.

      Restart the computer to normal mode. Go to device manager and check again if there are any differences between the lists prior and after the removal procedure as above stated in the safe-mode.

(2) At the normal desktop, open the window explorer. Go to the folder: -
      C:\windows\sysbckup\
     It is a system-hidden folder. In order to view it, you may select "show all file" or go to the start-settings-folder option-view-checked the box for 'show all files'.
      You will find there are at least five files '*.cab'. E.g. rb001.cab, rb002.cab...rb005.cab
      Select all of them and delete all.

      Restart the computer into command mode,
      At the c:\ prompt, type 'scandisk' without the quotation and do a scan disk. <enter>
      Afterwards, at the c:\ prompt, type 'scanreg /backup' without the quotation, <enter>.
      New cabinet will be created at the sysbckup directory, which will be as counter record in the registry against any changes to your current registry.

      Shut down the computer.

      After 20 min., start the computer again. Inspect again.

pslh
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falcon051997Author Commented:
comment to PSLH: SUCCESS!!!

This is how I made it to work finally.

I double clicked on the mapped drive which shows up under my computer. then I went to a folder draged and dropped and choose and it copied fine.. no problems whatsoever. If I did the same with "network neighborhood" icon.. (meaning double clik on "volrath" under networkneighborhood, and drag and drop a folder with contents, then it gives the " network device no longer available message"!

Also, I found another way too..  This one works with the network neighborhood as well.. just chose the file, right click, and chose "copy". Then goto the destination drive or folder and chose "paste".. works fine again!

I have no idea why this works like that. And why drag and drop from network neighborhood does not work.  Also, why I cannot map all the drives C:, D:, E:,F:, and G: but only two namely C:, and D:. Those questions remain but my network is finally working.

Also I dont have IP address specified under TCP/IP props. May be i have to do that to speed up the boot up.. but I will let the PC restart a few more times and then worry about it.

Falcon
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
falcon, I couldn't remember if I have made following before in your previous Qs.

Go to Start-run, type ‘sysedit’ without the quotation and open the System Configuration Editor. Select the config.sys file. Add a line at the bottom.

LASTDRIVE=Z

Save the file and exit. Restart the computer.

Try to do the tune-up as per my last comment.

Next, see if it can re-map the other drives.   Pslh
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falcon051997Author Commented:
comment Pslh:
Once again, I would like to thank you for patiently debugging all my problems to a successful conclusion.

Once I put that lastdrive=z.. I could map every drive and every thing is working fine now. No more long boot up times, and weird behavior etc.

I am still wondering however, whether I really need the Ipx/spx and the Netbeui protols in my network though...

Falcon
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Patricia Siu-Lai HoCommented:
Falcon,

<<whether I really need the Ipx/spx and the Netbeui protocols in my network though... >>

Here is my guide-line after a testing in a comparative environment.

Netbeui is used: Win98 Pc connected with Win95 Pc.

IPX/SPX is used: Win98 PC connected with Win98 Pc. (Hub is used or coaxial cable is used. Network interface card is another factor - older types ISA or non PnP or 8bit or 16bit. LAN is connected in 10Mbps peer-to-peer system. LAN games is playing).

TCP/IP is used: Win98 PC connected with Win98 Pc. (Hub is used or coaxial cable is used. Support larger networking system over 50 computers. LAN is connected in 10Mbps peer-to-peer system or 100Mbps. Network interface card - PCI Plug and Play 32bit is another factor. ).

pslh
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