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network neighbourhood can see some of my computers in the network, but for some reason don't see all, yet when I tell computer to find the one's not on the monitor it finds them. Have checked ip adresses and everything seems to be in order, can someone please help
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larrypaloozaCommented:
Try running TweakUI from control panel.  Make sure all the drives are checked that you want to see. Good Luck
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cybsashaCommented:
If you use TCP/IP protocol ,check all the computers have the same subnet mask(settings TCP/IP from Control Panel->Network)
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young_manAuthor Commented:
Thanks now see all computers on the network but can't get to server???
can u help on that one
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dew_associatesCommented:
Young Man, is it a true server or is it a Win98 machine acting as a server. If it is a true server (Windows NT for example) you will need to log on to the server, be authenticated and a "share" will need to have been created for each PC on the network to access.
Dennis
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dew_associatesCommented:
By the way, if its an NT server, you have a logon in your network settings in control panel.
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cybsashaCommented:
is it domain server or standalone?
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dew_associatesCommented:
Alexandr, a standalone is a domain server!
Dennis
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cybsashaCommented:
Yes, I agree Dennis
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young_manAuthor Commented:
its a win98 platform using lotus domino as a www server hoping you can help
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dew_associatesCommented:
Have you enabled file and printer sharing on that machine?
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young_manAuthor Commented:
file and printer sharing have been enabled, still dont see the www server
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young_manAuthor Commented:
I'm dialing into an NT Server which then should then allow me to access my www server which is on a win98 platform as a lotus domino server, hoping that may put a bit more light on what my problem could be.
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dew_associatesCommented:
Actually the light your shedding is very hazy. I think you need to explain the network you have and its relationship to the server. Based on what you've posted thus far, it appears that you have a few computers connected in perr-to-peer and you're dialing into an NT Server and trying to access another Win98 machine on which you have installed a Lotus Domino Server, is this correct?
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young_manAuthor Commented:
dew you are spot on, is that a problem or have i got a sticky one here?
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young_manAuthor Commented:
have all the machines up via dial up networking but am still having probs getting out to the Internet can you help on that one please???
 
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dew_associatesCommented:
If you having problems getting out to the Internet via your Win98 boxes that you have in peer-to-peer, then how are you testing the connection to the WinNT Server?

By the way, you can't dial into a server and then run the Lotus Domino Server on a Win98 box.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
Via the lan line i am able to access any of the boxes, but when i try via the internet 98 doesn't seem to want to know anything about it,my dial up is an nt box, then it is suppose to go to the www server which is 98 box with lotus domino, Tell me is this a problem where as I will have to install nt workstation, and if I do, how do I over come the fact that 98 converts to fat32, hence the problem of loading windows nt. hoping you can help kindest regards and have a great CHRISTMAS.
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dew_associatesCommented:
I think it would be best if you do 2 things. First, explain exactly which PC's are connected to which and how they are connected, and Two, what external servers are you connecting to (those outside of the peer group) and how you connect to them (or are trying to)
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young_manAuthor Commented:
I have 1 PDC windows nt server mail, Bdc nt server,2 nt workstations, win 98 platform pc with domino lotus www server, and lap top with win98. the laptop I am trying to set up for dial up networking re the internet dialing into the BDC which is nt, from there it seems to get lost, as I assumed that when dial up was configured for the internet there would not be a problem but there still is. I did have all pc up on the net work but is seems to keep rejecting the www server.
thanks
your help has been so far been great.
once again hope you can help.
By the way what do I call you.
DEW???
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dew_associatesCommented:
Is the BDC validating the logon and providing the necessary priviledges?
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young_manAuthor Commented:
yes to the network neighbourhood only,
but now Microsoft has just thrown in another red herring ie5 not coming up on the bdc when i double click on it a combo box comes up with briefcase in it plus a couple of other icons tells me the uninstall has been disabled.
what now please
baz
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dew_associatesCommented:
BAZ, you playing games! Neither a PDC or BDC validates to network neighborhood. Now, how about telling me what is really going on here.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
dew, not playing games at all, what I am trying to do is set up dial up networking for the internet, on my laptop so as when i am out elsewhere and i have laptop with me and phone then I can dial into my network and do whatever I have to do, hoping that clarifies what I am trying to do.
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dew_associatesCommented:
Okay, then are these Win98 boxes as well as the NT servers, both the PDC and the BDC in the same room and connected as a single network?

I need accurate information as to how this is set up, exactly how all of this is physically connected so I can get an idea of how to do what you want, if thats possible.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
The laptop has win98 on it and it is also set up to network when I,m in the office, what I am trying to do is get dial up networking going into a winnt box which is the BDC the modem is connected to the BDC, from there when it allows me into the network it allows me to view all the machines except the win98 machine which is part of the network neighbourhood, but is a www server for the internet hence where i fetch my homepage from,,(all the pc's are using lotus domino platform so with lotus domino I have 3 servers a PDC, BDC and WWW Server which is on the win98 platform)
hoping this will help you to guide me
once again I appreciate all this help many thanks
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dew_associatesCommented:
How did you manage to load Lotus Domino on a Win98 box when it requires Windows NT?
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young_manAuthor Commented:
well thats the first time i have known that, so that could be the problem then, because every now and then i see all machines but cant actually get to any of thenm unless i go throught the lan and then i see them all
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dew_associatesCommented:
That's why I couldn't understand what you were trying to achieve. Check the Lotus site, they post the requirements, one of Which is Windows NT 4.0 as one.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
Is there a way where I can convert back to fat16 so as I am able to load winnt over the top of win98 system please
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dew_associatesCommented:
Sorry guy, you can't convert back to Fat 16 unless you use something partition magic, and even then it may not work as you can load NT over Win98. It will load separately, and you haven't had nightmares of that type yet. The best thing would be to format and start fresh.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
hey thanks heaps Dew Associates for all your help over the Christmas period. I'm afraid that i have to do it, bt it has to bew done. once again thanks if i do have a problem I know where to get my answers thanks again
bazza
merry Christmas and New years also to you and all around you.
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dew_associatesCommented:
Not a problem YM, I'll refer to the above as the final outcome for this question.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
Just tell me one thing dew how does this points thing work as now i think i have only 15points left to play with
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dew_associatesCommented:
Aside from the 15 points you currently have, you'll receive 5 points per day, every day, which you can use. Also, when posting points on questions, measure them as best as you can against the severity or complexity of the problem to be solved.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
Didn't know I was getting my answers from a MSCE=1 congratualations you realy know your stuff, have you at all had anything to do with lotus domino and what are your thoughts on it. I myself only started toying with computers not quite 3 years ago, and I must say every day that i have spent on them i have enjoyed immensely, allthough I am trying to teach myself as the fees are just too much for the average person to afford, the hard part with most of the software is not the knowledge but the affordability which takes it away from the young as they cannot afford it at all. Which is a shame as we keep on saying we want our kids to be smart. But when the system puts exhorbident prices on the product there is only a select few who can afford hence the ones that can't are left behind.
Once again Dennis
I cannot thank you enough for your help
which has once again taught me something new.
All the best for the year 2000, I hope you have a great year.
kindest regards
bazza aka young_man
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dew_associatesCommented:
Bazza,

Anytime my friend!

<<congratualations you realy know your stuff>>

Thanks for the compliment!

<<have you at all had anything to do with lotus domino and what are your thoughts on it.>>

I have, and really I would only implement it if the lotus infrastructure was already in place. Why?, simple, as now you would need to follow the server updates as well as the lotus support.

<<I myself only started toying with computers not quite 3 years ago, and I must say every day that i have spent on them i have enjoyed immensely,>>

I wish you much success!

<<allthough I am trying to teach myself as the fees are just too much for the average person to afford>>

What I try to encourage are groups of people to pull their financial resources as purchase a MSDN membership. This will give them access to just about all MS server and workstation products plus a bunch of extras. Granted it can range from inexpensive at $400 per year to $1200, but given the price of all the software (about $15000), it is an alternative.

Dennis
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young_manAuthor Commented:
The MSDN Membership is that via the net or can I do that here in oz, as in go to an office here where microsoft might be here in Melbourne.
thanks heaps
I hope to keep in touch if that is allright with you.
by the way do you have icq or mirc
maybe we can catch up and converse when yyou are not too busy
Bazza aka young_man
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young_manAuthor Commented:
Dennis now i seem to have anothe r problem wont load NT on my laptop have reformatted but tells unable to copy files to hard drive
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dew_associatesCommented:
I have ICQ, so let me have a number and I'll send you a msg.

On the NT issue, tell me the process that you went through. How are you loading the cd rom drivers.

PS: A MSDN membership is normally done through a distributorship that handles Microsoft developer products.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
I reformatted the hard drive and loaded dos on then tried to load nt via commuter cdrom portable, it keeps saying it cant load files on but doesn't give no reason. Hence I am going to try to reformat hard drive. Hard drive by the way is 4 gig will this have any effect or not the size that is Dennis.
I did have icq that was on the laptop but I have alreaddy formatted the hard drive so I don't have it anymore that is untill I get myself out of this little mess i have put myself in.
My ICQ number hence I have lost as  at the time it was not important.
hoping you can help on this one.
Formatting the hard drive again unconditional format.
Would it hurt if i loaded 98 on then loaded winnt on without converting to fat32. with all my network settings plus remote access.
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dew_associatesCommented:
You can't load NT (except NT 2000) over Win98.

You'll have to partition that drive to a 2gig boot partition and then load NT. Once loaded, you can resize the partition and convert to NTFS instead of FAT. Once the loader has started, it will ask you about the partition size and whether you want FAT or NTFS. If you want to use the entire 4 gig, you'll have to use NTFS.

Have you created the NT install disks?
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young_manAuthor Commented:
no I didn't think i would need to do that as I have the floppy and that is something I'm not sure of doing and don't want to give myself another headache, unless you think that way is easier, partitioning is not my cup of tea either as it is something i have seen done numerous times but have never been in a situation where i have needed to do it,
hoping your advice will help, so far you have been spot on an d many thanks, just hope you can solve this one please.
BAZZA aka young_man
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dew_associatesCommented:
Running Fdisk is easy enough. You can use a Win9X disk or NT boot disk that has Fdisk on it.

1. Boot to the floppy.

2. Start Fdisk by typing Fdisk<enter>

3. You will be asked if you want to enable large hard drive support, and you respond NO or N.

4. Now remove the current partition.

5. Now go back in and add a partition and it will ask if you want to use the entire disk and you respond N, and it will bring up a small line with a box. Just type in 2000.

6. Make this partition active.

7. Next, create an extended partition for the remainder of the drive.

8. Reboot to the floppy and then format the boot partition and then load NT.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
<"Next, create an extended partition for the remainder of the drive.">
Seem to be having probs with the extended position as none of it makes sense as in when you create the extended partition it doesn't assign a drive letter. or shouls i first in stall dos on the system first
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young_manAuthor Commented:
<The extended dos partition contains logical drives.
<Do you want to display the logical drive information. (Y/N)...........>
confusing can you help here please
dennis thanks
bazza aka young_man
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dew_associatesCommented:
Bazza,

Once you've setup the first boot partition, you'll next setup the extended partition for the remainder of the drive size above the 2G you used for the initial partition. Once you've setup the extended partition, it should tell you that no "logical drives" have been setup and then give you the option of doing so. A logical drive is nothing more than assigning a drive letter to the extended partition and then enabling it.
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young_manAuthor Commented:
Hi there Dennis thanks for your help and a happy new year to you, hoping the y2k bug was not a problem for you as so far no problems here.
What I'm hoping you may be able to answer if I load windows2000 over the top of win98 will I have a problem at all re the fat 32 scenario. I am hoping you will say just load win2000 on and I will get what I want. That is a platform that Lotus domino will run on, it is running on the 98 platform but it doesn't want to know it on the dial up adator side.
Hoping you may be able to help
young_man
baz@barsys.com.au
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dew_associatesCommented:
Hi Baz!

Happy New Year to you too!

<<What I'm hoping you may be able to answer if I load windows2000 over the top of win98 will I have a problem at all re the fat 32 scenario.>>

No you won't, but I would recommend that you either: A. Do a fresh install, or B. Or load it into a separate partition.


<<I am hoping you will say just load win2000 on and I will get what I want.>>

I hope the above helps as this is based upon experience. Since Win2K was just released to manufacturing, you no doubt have RC2 or 3 (unless you are a beta tester or MSDN member and have access to an RTM copy). If RC2 or 3, do a fresh install or into a separate partition.

<<That is a platform that Lotus domino will run on, it is running on the 98 platform but it doesn't want to know it on the dial up adaptor side.>>

Good luck my friend. Lotus Domino has not been fully tested on Win2K.


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young_manAuthor Commented:
Thanks Dennis for your quick response and have been a great help, hoping you dont mind if I send you a queery every now and again. Your advice so far has been a great learning curve for me, It's opened my eyes a little bit more.
young_man
baz@barsys.com.au
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dew_associatesCommented:
As long as the query relates to this question Baz, its not a problem.
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