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Which is Best?!?
Hi there,
Here is my situation. Maybe you can help. I am Canadian and i am about to attend University. My goal is to be an IT developer (focusing on Web development). I want to work for a high-profile American company like IBM, Nortel, 3M, Cisco, etc, or even big web companies like Yahoo. However, since i am Canadian i will need to get a 4 year degree so that i can be eligible for a greencard (or maybe a TN-1 visa -- i checked the TN list and noticed that only Systems Analyst were on it. Am i still eligible for a TN-1 visa?). I was planning on getting a "BSc 4-year Honors with Software Engineering Specialization" degree. I guess that is the right degree to get. Ok, here is where i am confused.
I have to make a choice. I can attend UWO university which isn't the most prestigious University in Canada BUT i am in a situation where i can actually begin my 3rd academic year come September 2000. If i were to go to UWO i could finish my 3rd year by 2001 (Sept 2000- April 2001), then i would take a 6 month - 18 month Internship, and then come back to UWO to finish up my last year and get my "4 year Honors BSc w/ Software Engineering specialization" degree. I figure i could be done by 2002-2003.
OR: I can go to Waterloo University (or Simon Fraser University). I have sent off applications to both and i find that there is a distinct possibility that i will be accepted by both universities. As you know, Waterloo and Simon Fraser are two very prestigious universities. BUT, if i do attend one of these two i may have to start over in my first year (softmore?). If i were to attend UWO though i would be in my 3rd year by Sept 2000. I know Waterloo and SFU have "transfer credit" but i am sure they may not take all of the credits that i got from UWO precisely. Another advantage to Waterloo and SFU is that they have extensive co-op programs (Waterloo for instance provides 3 years experience by the time you get your degree). And they both have employers scrambling to hire all grads, while UWO may have few if any. Attending Waterloo or SFU i could have my degree by 2004-2005.
I should mention that i am not in UWO right now. I was a student there about 5 years ago and have been seriously deciding to go back to school. I just don't know which school to attend.
I want to get the most experience but i also want to get hired by the best firms out there without too much trouble. I also want to be able to become an American citizen.
What would you suggest? Advice?
Thanks very much for your expertise!
Here is my situation. Maybe you can help. I am Canadian and i am about to attend University. My goal is to be an IT developer (focusing on Web development). I want to work for a high-profile American company like IBM, Nortel, 3M, Cisco, etc, or even big web companies like Yahoo. However, since i am Canadian i will need to get a 4 year degree so that i can be eligible for a greencard (or maybe a TN-1 visa -- i checked the TN list and noticed that only Systems Analyst were on it. Am i still eligible for a TN-1 visa?). I was planning on getting a "BSc 4-year Honors with Software Engineering Specialization" degree. I guess that is the right degree to get. Ok, here is where i am confused.
I have to make a choice. I can attend UWO university which isn't the most prestigious University in Canada BUT i am in a situation where i can actually begin my 3rd academic year come September 2000. If i were to go to UWO i could finish my 3rd year by 2001 (Sept 2000- April 2001), then i would take a 6 month - 18 month Internship, and then come back to UWO to finish up my last year and get my "4 year Honors BSc w/ Software Engineering specialization" degree. I figure i could be done by 2002-2003.
OR: I can go to Waterloo University (or Simon Fraser University). I have sent off applications to both and i find that there is a distinct possibility that i will be accepted by both universities. As you know, Waterloo and Simon Fraser are two very prestigious universities. BUT, if i do attend one of these two i may have to start over in my first year (softmore?). If i were to attend UWO though i would be in my 3rd year by Sept 2000. I know Waterloo and SFU have "transfer credit" but i am sure they may not take all of the credits that i got from UWO precisely. Another advantage to Waterloo and SFU is that they have extensive co-op programs (Waterloo for instance provides 3 years experience by the time you get your degree). And they both have employers scrambling to hire all grads, while UWO may have few if any. Attending Waterloo or SFU i could have my degree by 2004-2005.
I should mention that i am not in UWO right now. I was a student there about 5 years ago and have been seriously deciding to go back to school. I just don't know which school to attend.
I want to get the most experience but i also want to get hired by the best firms out there without too much trouble. I also want to be able to become an American citizen.
What would you suggest? Advice?
Thanks very much for your expertise!
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mjswart,
- How quickly have you found a job?
- You probably don't know this but are the pay differences for new grads from UW are different from UWO, assuming experience level and job position are the same?
Thanks
- How quickly have you found a job?
- You probably don't know this but are the pay differences for new grads from UW are different from UWO, assuming experience level and job position are the same?
Thanks
I'm almost positive that the pay differences are comparable but you're right that I can't tell for sure.
Personally I had a job lined up before I graduated.
After the experience and interview experience that co-op gave me I never really worried about finding a job.
All my class mates are now working. And while some friends struggled who were in different programs. I don't know anyone in Math who didn't find a job after graduating.
In any case: UW, UWO, SFU have great programs. If you can finish a program, then you can certainly find a good paying job.
Personally I had a job lined up before I graduated.
After the experience and interview experience that co-op gave me I never really worried about finding a job.
All my class mates are now working. And while some friends struggled who were in different programs. I don't know anyone in Math who didn't find a job after graduating.
In any case: UW, UWO, SFU have great programs. If you can finish a program, then you can certainly find a good paying job.
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mjswart,
One last question. What was the Descartes Contest like? Was it tough? What kind of material was on it (highschool level or higher)? Were they tricky? What is the best way to study for it...get their Math Prep book and previous exams?
Thanks
One last question. What was the Descartes Contest like? Was it tough? What kind of material was on it (highschool level or higher)? Were they tricky? What is the best way to study for it...get their Math Prep book and previous exams?
Thanks
The descartes contest was tough, but I happened to do well (skill or luck take your pick). It tested on grade 12 math I think (I don't remember any calculus on it).
I took it when I was in Gr. 13. They were tricky but I thought they were fun. I found that the best way to prepare for them is to take previous exams. By taking previous exams, you'll get a good idea of what an exam would be like.
http://cemc.uwaterloo.ca/CMCHome.html is the homepage for the Canadian Mathematics Competition. Most of the previous exams and manuals that they have cost some money though.
Good luck
I took it when I was in Gr. 13. They were tricky but I thought they were fun. I found that the best way to prepare for them is to take previous exams. By taking previous exams, you'll get a good idea of what an exam would be like.
http://cemc.uwaterloo.ca/CMCHome.html is the homepage for the Canadian Mathematics Competition. Most of the previous exams and manuals that they have cost some money though.
Good luck
Good Luck.