Looking for driver for Hayes 33.6 Ext V.34 + Fax...

I need the NT driver for this modem, I have looked everywhere to no avail...
The model Number is 5914US... Version 7.30..Thanks in advance!!!  I put alot of points because I really need the driver!!
imatech22Asked:
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1cellCommented:
is it an optima or an acura model?
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imatech22Author Commented:
Sorry, it is an Accura 33.6 External
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sorgieCommented:
Go to www.hayes.com/support.html
They have a selection of all there models both acura and optima plus others. They also have a support bullitin board.
Hope this helps
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1cellCommented:
sorgie, none of those drivers are for NT.  There are no drivers from hayes which will do this.  However, I have found a company that has them but doesn't publish them on the web.  I have sent a request for them to email them to me.
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imatech22Author Commented:
I explored the Hayes.com approach, to no avail.... That is why I posted here for 500 points.... 1cell, please get back to me whenever you get the reply!!!

Thanks again,
Jim
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1cellCommented:
here's the reply I got:

Sorry don't have that one and I don't think one exists, use the default "standard modem" driver, should
be fine!

FYI - Hayes Collection: ftp://speedywebsite.com/hayes

Regards
Webmaster
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1cellCommented:
sorry but I think that's it.  I also looked everywhere.

try the standard and let me know
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sorgieCommented:
iF YOU AE GOING TO TRY THE STANDARD GO TO THE HAYES PAGE AND GET THE LASTEST.
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sorgieCommented:
Sorry didn't mean to yell! Damn caps lock!
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1cellCommented:
sorgie, the drivers there are for windows 95/98, not NT!!!
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imatech22Author Commented:
Will the standard modem driver (28800) enable me to use the fax capability also??  I am trying to use this modem in SBS 4.5...
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imatech22Author Commented:
Will the standard modem driver (28800) enable me to use the fax capability also??  I am trying to use this modem in SBS 4.5...
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OttaCommented:
> Will the standard modem driver (28800) enable me to use the fax capability also??

Hayes and Accura modems are DSP (Digital Signal Processing) modems;
they are not (Host Signal Processing) modems.

HSP modems *NEED* "device-drivers", to compensate for the "missing" hardware,
while DSP modems send/receive over the COM port, and send/receive over the telephone-line, without any assistance from your computer.

So, since a "standard" modem is designed to be compatible with the "standard", and since Hayes modems *ARE* the definers of the "standard",
use the "standard" modem-definition file.

The "standard" definition won't create any "blockades" to using any FAX-software.
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1cellCommented:
that's what I would have said.....
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imatech22Author Commented:
Thanks for the explanation...
I will try it out tonight
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imatech22Author Commented:
Is there a way to split points?
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1cellCommented:
yes, 499 for me, and 1 for the other guy, hehe

really though, just post another question for each person you want to award points to with the number of points you want to award.
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sorgieCommented:
Hey 1cell I know there are no NT drivers I just restated if he was going to try the standard drivers to use the latest!!!!!!!
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1cellCommented:
this would not work due to the architectural differences between NT and 95/98.  Loading a "standard" driver is the NT standard driver and should.
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imatech22Author Commented:
To resolve this issue...
I tried the NT Standard 28800 driver yesterday, and hyperterm worked fine...
I also tried the one on the website, and although it seemed to go in properly, when I dialed through hyperterm, nothing.... But thanks for all the info people!!
I will try the fax function tonight and see if that is going to work properly
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cheekycjCommented:
I didn't see it anywhere but did you check out www.windrivers.com?

CJ
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1cellCommented:
I checked there cheekyci, that's were we got the link for Hayes driver page which contains 95/98 drivers only.
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cheekycjCommented:
Since you didn't find it at:
http://www.modemexpress.com/accura_drivers336.html

The reply I got from modemexpress was that:
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We are Modem Express are currently working on adding all the modem drivers and fee based V.90 upgrades we have for Hayes, Practical Peripherals and Cardinal products for customers to download to our web site (http://www.modemexpress.com/hayes.html).  If you do not see the driver you need, then we we do not have it or are still working on updating the driver to the web site and you will need to check back over the next several weeks.  ALL the Y2K information regarding these products is listed on the web site (http://www.modemexpress.com/y2k.html).  We do not have additional information regarding this subject. Due to the bankruptcy of Hayes Microcomputer Products, Practical Peripherals and Cardinal, ALL warranties issued by said companies are null and void.  Thank you for you patience and understanding.  Modem Express, Inc.

=====================================

Doesn't seem to help much does it?

CJ
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1cellCommented:
actually could be quite helpful if they are going to write an NT driver.
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OttaCommented:
> if they are going to write an NT driver...

The Hayes modem is just a piece of "hardware" -- it needs no "help" from any host-resident "driver" software.

Just connect it, and tell Windows NT that you have a modem (COMx/IRQy) and you'll be ready-to-go.
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cheekycjCommented:
But sometimes there are specific features (such as fax etc) that drivers are needed for thus, almost every hardware comes with a custom (specific) driver.  NT standard drivers don't work for everything... otherwise the manufacturers wouldn't even bother with their own drivers. Right?

CJ
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OttaCommented:
> Right?

Wrong.

Make the distinction between "drivers", namely software to interact with the modem, as the modem is sending/receiving,
versus "configuration-files", which parameterize how Windows interfaces with the modem, e.g., "for this modem, send 'AT&F1' to the modem to 'initialize' it".
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cheekycjCommented:
I am not sure I follow?
>Make the distinction
>between "drivers", namely software to
>...

CJ
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OttaCommented:
>>Make the distinction between "drivers" ... and ... "configuration files".

> I am not sure I follow?

Where did you get lost?

"Configuration files" configure the modem, so that it can be used.
"Drivers" receive the bits from the modem, and process them, and pass the bytes to the application layer (web-browser or TELNET client or FTP-server).
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cheekycjCommented:
So why are there hardware specific drivers?  For configuration?

CJ
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OttaCommented:
> why are there hardware specific drivers? For configuration?

Yes, but it depends on the modem.

Compare it to putting gasoline into the tank, and air into the tires, of an automobile.

Once the air is in the tires (or the modem has been properly initialized), the automobile (modem) is ready to be used, but the air (settings) is not "consumed" while the automobile (modem) is being used.

On the other hand, gasoline (or the signal-processing "device driver" software) _IS_ necessary anytime you are using the automobile (modem) to commute (communicate).

Note that US Robotics makes both "DSP" (Digital Signal Processing) and "HSP" (Host Signal Processing) modems.

DSP modems work under MS DOS, Linux, OS/2 Warp, and Windows, without needing to load any "device driver" software.

HSP modems are advertised as "optimized for Windows", and will operate only under Windows only when the correct "device driver" software has been invoked by the Operating System.

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ergmiesterCommented:
Think of a hardware  modem as a little computer. When the modem is not in the data transfer state it will interpret data sent to it as a command if it begins with AT  (attention ). Years ago you would send these commands manually. Still can with Hyperterm just choose no when it asks if you want to dial.  Then they had dialer programs that followed a script. Now there is DUN dial up networking that does this. The modem "driver" is a INF file that lists the AT commands that DUN can send to the modem and lists all the modem responses.  When the inf file is installed in the registry DUN Knows what AT commands to send for compression, time out,  error control and other settings. Dun sends a "init string" a string of AT commands to configure the modem then sends the ATDT to dial the phone number. You can add to this string  in modem properties , advanced, extra settings box.. Type the commands without the AT prefix without any spaces. Also enable logging. Don’t forget to clear this after  troubleshooting or modemlog.txt will get large.
        Install The accura  as a standard 28800 modem and use  control panel, modems, diagnostics,  Highlight the comport, click more info to view the Ati  responses from the modem. If the Ati6 response is RCV288DPI rev05…. Then you have the newer Rockwell chip that can do a true v.34 handshake and supports the AT+MS command. Otherwise use the extra setting s37=15 to limit the speed to 28800. If the modem connects at a higher speed the modem will send a result code not in the inf and DUN will log a "unrecognized response" in the modemlog.txt file and try to establish a connection without error control or compression. Then  your modem  will get poor service from the server in addition to the slower speed. If the INF can recognize "verbose" responses add V1 to the init string. This tells you what the responses mean in words. M2 forces the modem to report the line speed not the port speed.  L1 sets the modem speaker lower in volume.
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ergmiesterCommented:
Try this init string:
s37=15s95=47s46=138w2l1
S37=15S95=47S46=138W2L1
entire string must be the same case
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OttaCommented:
> M2 forces the modem to report the line speed not the port speed.

Are you sure? 'M' is for "mute".
I think that you meant to write 'W2'.
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ergmiesterCommented:
W2 tells the modem to report line speed
M2 sets the modem speker on al the time
Sorry for the typo
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OttaCommented:
Any progress to report?
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compmaniaCommented:
Found the NT driver for the modem:

http://www.ddidynex.com/download/modem.htm
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1cellCommented:
good work compmania!

let us know how they work.
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