Novell 3.12

I have a Novell Network to which is attached 3 computers running Windows 98 - no problems.
I recently added NT4 (service pack 3) to one of the machines as a dual boot.
In windows98 the machine finds and logs on, but when in NT doesn't find it.
I'm new to NT and NT does recognise the card, but Windows98 does all the IPX/SPX etc bit automatically - NT doesn't

Help??
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BigMarkConnect With a Mentor Commented:
What protocols are you running - you mention IPX/SPX -  is anything else running??
YOu may well find that the frame type is incorrect for the IPX/SPX under NW3.12 - from memory 3.12 uses 802.3 as the default frame type - NT usually set up 802.2


Let me know how you get on....


BigMark
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Handy HolderSaggar maker's bottom knockerCommented:
You need to install client service for netware (CSNW). controlpanel-networks services tab add.
This should automatically add IPX/SPX compatible transport and after rebooting NT should autodetect the frametype and you should see the server.
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hiandrasCommented:
Or download the latest client from Novell (support.novell.com) and install that one. (It is Version 4.6 SP2).
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broadbentAuthor Commented:
I've added CSNW and defined the network card - DEC PCI Fast Ethernet 21140

When I boot it now says that I cannot be authenticated on Broadbent (the sever's name) - network path not found.
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broadbentAuthor Commented:
Thanks it works, although extremely slowly.

Should I be using TCP/IP and not IPX/SPX in which case what are the settings?
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dhw121699Commented:
Before trying to connect to the Novell server you need to establish if your network card is working under N.T. The fact that it works when booting into 98 is not the deciding factor as the two operating systems access hardware differently. (being a pci card a different pci slot might make a difference)See if the other 2 win98 computers are available in network neighborhood by removing ipx/spx and the client services for netware from the nt machine. Install only netbeui and make sure that the win98 p.c's have netbeui (ipx does not have to be removed from them). If you cannot see the 2 98's then nt does not like your network card. If you can see the 98 p.c's then bigmarks suggestion should be sufficient to get you going (but does not mean he gets all the points -haha)
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broadbentAuthor Commented:
I did as dhw suggested and I don't see the other machines in Windows NT but I note this.

When I boot up in NT4  I see the following
"At least one service failed ..."

and the event log says-

Source: Service Control Manager
The Computer Browser service depends on the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service which failed to start because of the following error:
The specified service is disabled and cannot be started.  

Source: Service Control Manager
The Server service terminated with the following error:
Not enough server storage is available to process this command.

Windows NT Diagnostics reports:-

Version 4.0 (Build 1381:Service Pack 3)

Physical Memory
Total 64,948
Available 28,452
File Cache 19,000

Kernel Memory
Total 10,332
Paged 9,468
Nonpaged 864

Network Services:
Client Service for Netware      (Novell 3.12)
Computer Browser
NetBios Interface
RPC Configuration
Server
Workstation

Network Protocols
NWLink IPX/SPX..
NWLink NetBios
TCP/IP Protocol
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Handy HolderSaggar maker's bottom knockerCommented:
You did not servicepack it after adding the network card. reapply the same SP3 that you had before and it will be OK.

It'll probably autodetect the frametype as well but may as well leave it fixed.
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dhw121699Commented:
Im a little confused here broadbent. From what I understand you mentions that Bigmark got you connected, just that the connection was slow. Can you confirm this so that between Mark and I we can get you connected.

The message that you are getting:

Source: Service Control Manager
The Server service terminated with the following error:
Not enough server storage is available to process this command.

This tells you that your p.c is out of physicall disk space and could be causing problems starting up the network services. Clean up the disk that NT in installed on (for safety sake you need at least 50mb)

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dhw121699Commented:
Im a little confused here broadbent. From what I understand you mentions that Bigmark got you connected, just that the connection was slow. Can you confirm this so that between Mark and I we can get you connected.

The message that you are getting:

Source: Service Control Manager
The Server service terminated with the following error:
Not enough server storage is available to process this command.

This tells you that your p.c is out of physicall disk space and could be causing problems starting up the network services. Clean up the disk that NT in installed on (for safety sake you need at least 50mb)

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Handy HolderSaggar maker's bottom knockerCommented:
"Not enough server storage is available to process this command."
is a very common error meaasge you get if you install a networking component without re-servicepacking. I've seen it hundreds of times. I think it occurs because mismatched versions cause something to overflow and fill the desktop-heap but i'm not a programmer so not sure.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q151/4/27.asp

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Handy HolderSaggar maker's bottom knockerCommented:
BTW dhw, don't want to be rude but "not enough server storage..." never refers to hard disk space. It can sometimes occur if too many services but there is a workaround for this.

Broadbent, if you have time after servicepacking can you turn auto frametype detection on again (unless you have 2 NICs).
 
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broadbentAuthor Commented:
You did get me connected so here are the points.

You didn't say wether TCP/IP was better though.
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