Frontpage/Office 2000 Server Extensions

I am running Frontpage 2000 with Office 2000 server extensions on an NT 4.0 SP5 server.  The problem is that when I go to use the search engine it comes up saying that the FrontPage Server Extensions arent functioning properly for Frontpage components.  This is despite what appears to be a successful installation of the Office2000 server extensions (which in my understanding are a superset of the Frontpage server extensions).  Given that I still want Office server extensions on, how do I fix this problem?

GregStaceAsked:
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SiteSeeCommented:
In MMC(Start...Programs....Microsoft NT 4.0 Option Pack...Microsoft Internet Information Server....Internet Service Manager), you need to right-click-select that web...select TASKS...configure Server Extensions....if you see the option to REPAIR Extensions...just do that...
That ought to fix it...

Steve
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
Thanks Steve.  Unfortunately there is no 'Configure Server Extensions' in the task bar - only check server extensions, remove server extensions,  recalculate web and open with Frontpage.  Does this mean that Office hasnt been installed properly?
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SiteSeeCommented:
The Check/Fix option is the one you want...
they have more than likely just become corrupted...
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
check server extensions option only asks if you want to tighten security as much as possible and reports no other errors
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SiteSeeCommented:
..and testing it resulted in the same error??
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
check server extensions option only asks if you want to tighten security as much as possible and reports no other errors
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
sorry about the last message - yes, testing resulted in the same error - basically it didn't do anything, no errors were found and as such nothing resolved
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SiteSeeCommented:
I am assuming you are talking about the built-in Search feature "component" in FP right??

Since it's an Office 2000 install, I'd use the REPAIR option when you first put in the cd...rather than the Install or ADD/REMOVE options...
I've had to do that to get my FP2000 working when some anomolous occurrance happened on my machine...

good luck...

Steve
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SiteSeeCommented:
You might try an Un-install of the extensions...and a re-install of them first....worth a try...
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
i tried uninstalling it and all it did was send fear through my spine as it removed all formatting upon re-installation and after fixing it up still didn't work.  I'll try the repair option off the CD.  And yes I am talking about the built in search feature in FP
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
Thanks Steve.  Unfortunately there is no 'Configure Server Extensions' in the task bar - only check server extensions, remove server extensions,  recalculate web and open with Frontpage.  Does this mean that Office hasnt been installed properly?
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
It keeps on sending old messages - whoops.  The CD (disk 3) doesnt offer a repair option -it only says reinstall office server configurations which doesnt solve the problem
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jake73Commented:
Did you have error message which included _derived/nortbots.htm?

If you did the reason for it is simple...

Problem occurs if you are working your web as a disk-based web. You will need to work strictly as a server-based web.

The wizard writes to the source code something like this:

onSubmit="location.href='_derived/nortbots.htm'

I fought with this problem for about three days, but finally resolved what I was doing wrong.... :)

-Jake-

 



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SiteSeeCommented:
Greg, the above 'Proposed Answer' only occurs if you're hitting a database via an FP auto-generated asp page/query...
what you describe is an extension issue...
It's strange that you don't get the Repair Office option...
try using Add/Remove programs in Control Panel...if it is Office 2000 Premium, you should get the option to Repair Office Install...

Steve
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SiteSeeCommented:
A good rule of thumb Jaje73 is NOT to propose your comment as an answer until the asker of the question indicates that yours, in fact, was the solution that helped them ...besides...you asked him a question yourself...by that alone you should see that it should've been posted as a comment...until you have all the facts, you can't possibly solve the problem... :>)

Steve
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
I have been getting the derived/northbots.htm error - the problem is that the web is already a server based web. Unless there is some function that registers the web as server based (even though it is already on the server)??
I'll the control panel add/remove
cheers
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jake73Commented:
Yes, I noticed that I send my reply as an answer even though that was not my purpose... :) Sorry about that.

Anyway, I think that these Server Extensions are pretty lousy documented. I didn't find any help from the MS web site or the FP2000 help files .

-Jake-

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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
It appears that the repair option is for repairing office 2000 altogether and not just Office Server Extensions (I havent got Office 2000 on the server - only the extensions). Could this be the problem(ie-need Office to run the extensions correctly?) Where do you look to check to see if the web is server based or disk based?
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jake73Commented:
Look at the fp recent webs in the file menu. If your web is listed something like \\YOURSERVER\WEB, it is disk based. However, if the web is listed as website (ie. http://www.myweb.com) then it is web based.

-Jake-
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SiteSeeCommented:
Well, I think it repairs anything that was installed on the previous install...whether extensions only, or all programs, or just word, etc...

or like Jake said, but really, the search feature will work regardless of whether it is a disk based web or a server based web...(http://127.0.0.1 is the default on your local machine)...

Steve
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jake73Commented:
I tested the search page with my own intranet and found out that the search page doesn't work with the disk based version (I mapped the network directory where the files are). I made the search page with the search page wizard.

Then I tested it with the server based pages. And it worked out fine! :)

-Jake-
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
you are correct it is a disk based server - suggestions on how to transfer to a web server given that it is on the server already?
cheers
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jake73Commented:
Actually, you don't have to do anything... :) You just need to open it as web. Choose open. And then there is a folder called Web Folders. Open it and there should be your web available.

Open your web and create the search page again. This time it should work.

-Jake-
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
you are correct it is a disk based server - suggestions on how to transfer to a web server given that it is on the server already?
cheers
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SiteSeeCommented:
all you have to to is ready a folder with the extensions...proceed as follows:

in NT Explorer, create a folder for the web....
in MMC...click on the Default web's name, anc select NEW....Web....
put a name for it...type in an address like 127.1.1.10     or... 127.1.1.100  or something you'll remember..
browse to the folder you made...

make sure the two top checkboxes of the next screen are checked...scripts to be run...NOT Executables though...leave it unchecked....yes, you want to allow anonymous access...

now, after the wizard is finished, click on the new folder....Tasks...Configure extensions...do this wizard....then right click on the web name again in MMC...Start .....
now, open you're old disk-based web....publish it to that IP you just set-up...voillet...
henceforth, you should use that web, delete the other so you don't get them confused when opening the web up to edit it...

Steve
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jake73Commented:
Steve is absolutely right about that one. If you have not done that already...

-Jake-
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
Thankyou very much Steve and Jake for helping me out - it has been greatly appreciated
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GregStaceAuthor Commented:
Steve I am unsure how to comment on your responses(the accept this as an answer box has gone) - but thankyou again. If there is an option to accept several peoples input as answers that would be good.

greg
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SiteSeeCommented:
Did it work for you??,,
all you had to do is reject his first answer, and then you could assign points however you wanted...I believe that the nice folks at EE will split points between experts for you if you email them and ask them nicely..

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