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photoshop start problems

i have been using p.shop 4,5,&5.5 on a amd k6-2 450 for ages, i got a tyan tiger 100 dual board and am running a single PIII500 with no second slot terminator, everything runs a dream but photoshop 4-5.5 will install but will not start. goes into start up sequence scans thru 2/3 of plugins hangs at kodak icc engine then i get a red 'x' message:PHOTOSHP caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 0167:bff7b9f5.
Registers:
EAX=796692e0 CS=0167 EIP=bff7b9f5 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00d0fe28 SS=016f ESP=00c10000 EBP=00c10024
ECX=00c11de0 DS=016f ESI=00000001 FS=4edf
EDX=00000001 ES=016f EDI=8175cfe4 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
56 57 89 65 e8 75 04 33 c0 eb 54 85 c0 74 4b c7
Stack dump:
00d0fe28 796692e0 00000001 00d0fe28 796692e0 00c11de0 bffc05b4 bff79250 ffffffff 00c11df0 bff7ce23 796692e0 00000001 79669401 796692e0 00c11e30
 i havent a clue what it is, tho im told that it has something to do with my cpu - possibly as im currently only using a single cpu.
my config:
OS:                 WINDOW 98 v4.10.2222
CPU:               INTEL PENTIUM III 500
MOTHERBOARD:  TYAN S1832DL DUAL BOARD
TOTAL RAM:         128mb PC 100 SDRAM
AGP:     CREATIVE CT6971 ANNIHILATOR PRO
PCI:         SB LIVE!+DIGITAL OPTICAL I/O ADD ON
PCI:                   SB DXR3 DVD CARD
ISA:               HSP 56KFLEX PNP MODEM
FLOPPY:              GENERIC FDD
HDD:             MAXTOR 17.2 HDD UDMA 33
CD ROM[1]:          SB PC DVD 6x ENCORE
CD ROM[2]:          MITSUMI 4802TE CD-RW
CD ROM[3]:          SB 48x CD ROM
STORAGE:           USB 250 ZIP
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hello cevr, thanks for the reply, ive tried what you have suggested, however when i get onto the advanced tab i get into the annihilator pro properties box, and i cant find any way of changing from rgb to srgb.
also what is the preferences file in ps?
how do i find it [youll have to be patient w/ me i need to be hand held all the way thru these things].
th other thing is, surley if i remove the plugins ps wont work properly.
thanks
Hey Joe,you will find the preferences file in the Photoshop directory in a folder called,for example, "Photoshop5.5 Settings",( if you're using 5.5). The file will be called "Adobe Photoshop5.5Prefs.psp. Try temporarily moving the file, and then try starting Photoshop. Have you un-installed, then re-installed Photoshop?
Joe509,

There is a very precise procedure for installing 5.5 over an installation of version 5.  You cannot install the 5.5 upgrade on top of 5.0, or it will cause the problems you are describing.  

Do a complete uninstall of PS.  Move any images or actions, or other items you want to keep to a temporary directory, and completely remove the adobe directory structure.  You may have to uninstall Acrobat reader as well.  Then do a clean install of 5.5 and reinstall Acrobat reader.  Your program should start correctly now.
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THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS GUYS, IVE JUST LOGGED ON SO IVE NOT TRIED ANY OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS YET. HOWEVER, THIS MORNING I DID A FEW THINGS. THOROUGH SCAN DISK ON ALL HD'S [AUTO FIX ERRORS], DEFRAG ALL HD'S, UNINSTALLED PS5.5 [AS AN ASIDE TO KENCAM I always CLEAN INSTALL], SCANDISC ALL HD'S AGAIN, DEFRAG ALL HD'S AGAIN, SHUTDOWN-POWER OFF-POWER ON-REBOOT, REINSTALL PS 5.5, SCANDISK ALL HD'S, DEFRAG ALL HD'S, SHUTDOWN-POWER OFF-POWER ON-REBOOT, START PS:>::: SAME OLD STORY!
joe509,

Joe, you must have a defective disk from Adobe.  I recommend that you call Adobe Customer support.  They can replace the disk.  

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HI THERE FOLKES, IM IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING YOUR SUGGESTION KENCAM [ I HAVE 3 FULL PROGRAM DISKS PS 4, 5, AND 5.5 IVE OPTED TO USE 5.5 FOR THE INSTALLATION AS ITS THE BEST VERSION FOR MY WORK] THE STORY SO FAR MY ADOBE FOLDER CONTAINED ACROBAT 4, PS5.5, ILLUSTRATOR 8, AND IN DESIGN, VERY RELUCTANTLY I HAVE UNINSTALLED ALL OF THESE PROGS, SCAN DISK, DEFRAG AND HAVE YET TO INSTALL ANY ADOBE STUFF AGAIN ONTO THE HD.
FOR CEVR, I HAVE GONE THRU PS FOLDER [WHEN IT EXISTED!] EVEN TO THE PIONT OF SHOWING ALL FILES IN THE VIEW OPTION AND EITHER ITS ME OR ITS A CONSPIRACY BUT IN EITHER PS 4 DISK, 5 DISK OR 5.5 DISK I CANNOT FIND A PREFS FILE OR FOLDER, THE SETTING FOLDER IS THERE ALRIGHT BUT NO PREFS. REMOVED ALL PLUGINS AND OTHER EXTRANIOUS INFO. --HOWEVER-- HERES SOMETHING INTERESTING; WHEN I WENT INTO CONTROL PANEL AND DUBCLIK [SORRY SHORT FOR DOUBLE CLICK] THE ADOBE GAMMA FILE I GOT AN EXCLAMATION MARK WARNING - UNFORTUNATLY I DIDNT WRITE IT DOWN SO I CANT TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT SAID, BUT THE JIST OF IT WAS THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE FILE AND WINDOWS COULDNT READ IT. ANY IDEAS?
FOR BOTH OF YOU, PRVIOUSLY I RAN ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUAL PS VERSIONS AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER PERFECTLY USING AN AMD K6-2 450 ONA SINGLE CHIP BOARD [WHICH GREATIVE LABS SO KINDLY BLEW UP FOR ME BEFORE XMAS]. THIS MESSAGE IS ONLY AN INTERIM MESSAGE AS I HAVE NOT YET COMPLETED YOUR SUGGESTIONS. CHEERS JOE
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OK ITS THE NEXT DAY ANDF IVE COMPLETED ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS, EVERYWHICH WAY POSSIBLE AND EVERY LOGICAL THING I CAN THINK OF TO GET THIS ****ING PROG WORKING, BUT ALAS NO GO.
ILL ASK YOU TO HAVE A LOOK AT MY SYSTEM CONFIG AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE AND SEE IF YOU CAN ID ANYTHING THAT IS IN MY HARDWARE THAT MAY BE CAUSING SOME SORT OF CONFLICT. [I HAVE JUST THIS MINUTE BOUGHT A SECOND PIII500 AND AN ADDITIONAL 128RAM ID HAVE GONE FOR 256 ONLY RAM IS VERY EXPENSIVE HERE], A FRIEND CAME OVER TO SEE IF HE COULD DO SOMETHING AND HE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A PREVIOUS PROBLEM WINDOWS 98SE HAD WITH PS 4 - SOMETHING TO DO WITH VIRTUAL MEMORY EI:THAT PS READ THAT IF YOU HAD MORE THEN 2GIGS OF HDD SPACE IT WOULDNT START UP.
I GENUINLY THINK THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH MY CONFIG [DUAL BOARD SINGLE CHIP ETC] AS I CAN FIND NO OTHER LOGICAL REASON FOR THIS PROBLEM.
KENCAM, I HAVE CONSISTANTLY PHONED ADOBE OVER THE LAST MONTH AND THEY KEEP SAYING THAT THEY WILL NOT HELP ME AS "YOUR ENQUIRY IS NOT AN ADOBE PROBLEM" WAS ONE OF THE REPLIES I GOT, AND MORE RECENTLY I KEEP GETTING A TECHNICIAN IN ADOBE WHO SAYS THAT MY SERIAL NUMBER IS NOT VALID. WHAT DO I DO? SELL MY DISKS OR TAKE THEM TO COURT?
IF YOU HAVE any FURTHER SUGGESTIONS PLEASE HELP IM WILLING TO SPEND ALL OF MY MEASLY 115 POINTS ON GETTING THIS RESOLVED.
JOE
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AAAAHHHGGGGHHHH!!!!!
IT WORKED!!! IT STARTED!!! WHAT DID I DO? WELL I RE DID THAT CEVR SUGGESTION
CONTROL PANEL>DISPLAY>CHANGED ICC PRFILE "VALVE 17" TO ADOBE RGB [NOT SRGB]. I DID THIS THE OTHER DAY AND NOTHING HAPPENED...?!?!

ID LOVE TO GIVE BOTH OF YOU SOME POINTS FOR YOUR EFFORTS, BUT AS CEVR WAS THE CLOSEST [AND I DONT KNOW HOW TO SPLIT MY POINTS] ILL PASS THEM ON TO CEVR.

THANKYOU VERYVERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT, NOW I WONT HAVE THE PICTURE EDITOR SCREAMING DOWN THE PHONE AT ME EVERYDAY!
I THANK BOTH OF YOU VERY MUCH.
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THANKS.
Glad that helped. Good Luck