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How do I stop a network intruder taking control of Windows 98 system?

We have a lab of approximately 50 UMAX computers with Windows 98 installed.  We do have file sharing and printer sharing turned on.  We installed On Gaurd for Windows this helps some but not a whole lot.  We have had several students notify teachers that "someone" attaches themselves to the students computer, asks the student questions, and then takes control of the system.  We need to resolve soon.  Thanks for any help I can get.
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boom23

I'm using this software called BlackIce defender and I believe it's the best. http://www.networkice.com/
unfortuntately, on Win95/98, the only way to make it secure is to shut it down, unplug it, lock it in a safe in an underground bunker watched  by armed gaurds.  There are utilities which can help but none are ultimately secure and all are circumventable in some fashion.  What you really need is NT.

perhaps if you could explain this statement further we can offer something helpful:

<<We have had several students notify teachers that "someone" attaches themselves to the students computer, asks the student questions, and then takes control of the system.>>

cdeagle30,
I have to agree with boom23, BlackIce is the way to go. I have it on my PC and it has saved me a couple of times. IT logges IP and gives you information you need to track the hacker down. I recommend it highly.

T
Now, tracking is a different story!  If you simply want to know who got you, there are lots of ways to accomplish that.  If you want to stop them, however, things are much more intricate.
Another Solution is to install ia firewall or Ispy SOFTWARE ON THE MACHINES.
I agree 1cell,
Blocking intruders from actually gaining access to your PC is a bit difficult however its my understanding that the BlackIce program actually acts as a software firewall and not only prevents users from gaining access but logges activity as well. I use it and I have had no problems and I have a Cablemodem setup so its something that I require to keep hackers from getting on my PC. Anyway this is just one option to use cdeagle30.


T
I'll be checking that out as I will have cable service this saturday.  Relaize though that even a hardware firewall is not a perfect method.  I hack the hardware firewall for my work's intranet to get my mail daily and though they can't even spell security, it's only a matter of how much time you're willing to spend.
Take a look at a software called:
Fortress 101
It is pretty good protection.
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I would also scan your systems with an AV package.  If someone wonderful student loaded NetBus on (or BackOffice) and added a permit rule to AtGuard to allow Netbus to run, this is your culprit.  Sounds like you need to lock down your computers a bit more.  You might want to research profiles or something along these lines.
BlackIce is the best, I've tried other several software but they couldn't protect me as good as blackice could.  Also as aleinss mentioned, you might want to scan your system with good AV software for any trojans. I'd say once you got Blackice running, you should be sweet.
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there's some new info!  greaaat answer!!!
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Thank you for your suggestion.  I have emailed the manufacturer and waiting a response.
I want to thank all of you for the suggestion of BlackIce.  I currently have not received a call back from the Salesperson, but I am waiting.  Have a great day.
in all fairness, the person who recommended this first should have been awarded the points.  Keithp, posting other's comments as your answer is not accepted protocol for this site.
1cell
As I am sure you noticed, I am new and I did not know how to give the points to boom23, which who is I wanted to give it to.  How could I have gotten around this  problem?
boom23,

I am sorry, I messed up.  I will repay you somehow.

KeithP,

You and I are new to this so I can only assume that you did not know the difference between answering and commenting.  We have both learned.
well, first as the answer was information which was given before it should have been rejected.  Since you now have the option to accept comments as answer AND if the information which is given in a comment is what you use for your answer/solution, you should accept the comment which helped you.

Hope this doesn't seem rude or anything but it's what works best for everyone.  Welcome to you both!
Damn!!! It;s been only 1 night and I've missed all the fun stuff LOL...
And Kieth, what's up with you man? Didn't you see my really first comment?
Arhhhh I want my points... LOL..  LINDA, IAN,, Whoever..help me.. LOL
Thanks 1cell, but it seemed a little late :(
cdeagle30, you can post a request at https://www.experts-exchange.com/Customer_Service/Experts_Exchange tell them you wanted to award points to me instead of Keith.  Damn I feel stink doing this, but you know points are not that easy to earn since there are alot of experts here and I ain't one of them.. LOL
boom23,

I have submitted the question to the Community Support.  We will see if they have any suggestions.  I am really and truely very sorry about this mix up.  I am trying to correct it though.  You will get something from me no matter what, even if I have to empty my points to 0.
Why not reject Keith's answer, that will free up the question and then you can give your points to boom23?
boom23 I have posted a question for you in this topic area.

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Thanks, very appreciate it.