win95 & FAT32 ?

Does someone know if there is a program around that can convert my win95 harddrive to FAT32 and make win95 work with it?
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ho_yin_leungCommented:
What verson of Win95 you have?
If it is Win95B later, there is a utility something like "FAT32 Converter". If not you can try get the Partition Magic to satisfy the job no matter which version of Win95 you using.
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thoframAuthor Commented:
I use the first release of the Dutch version, so I don't have a convert util.
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compmaniaCommented:
ho yin leung: Win95b doesn't have a converetor, Win98+ is the only OS to have it.
Buy Partition Magic, it can do almost everything to a Harddrive w/o formating it.
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thoframAuthor Commented:
Adjusted points to 400
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thoframAuthor Commented:
But are there free programs that can do the same?
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compmaniaCommented:
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thoframAuthor Commented:
Can my win95 work with such a partition?
I mean, does the 1st release of win95 support fat32?
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compmaniaCommented:
Yes, it will just use the whole drive as one partiton (2.1+ gig)
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Jason_SCommented:
I don't recall for sure, but I think that compmania is incorrect in his thinking.  My understanding is that the first release of 95 would not support FAT32 no mater what the size of the partition was.

I suggest upgrading to 98, then you can convert it.

Resizing the partition is another story.  The 98 conversion tool will not allow you to resize the drive.  For this you will need Partition Magic.

thofram:  Do reject the current answer if it does not work for you.  It will increace exposure to the question.  You can always accept the comment as the answer later.
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compmaniaCommented:
Jason S: you don't know what you are talking about, Win95a will work with fat32, normally you can use a W95b or W98 boot disk and format the drive in fat32. All fat32 will do is use the whole drive as one partition, W95a will not format the drive as fat32 but it will work fine if the drive is running in fat32.
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Jason_SCommented:
That is not the way I understood it, (it's been a while) but I will take your work for it.  Is there a limitation to partition size for this combination?
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thoframAuthor Commented:
I'm going to try to convert my harddisk. So I'll find out if it works at all...
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compmaniaCommented:
With fat16 it only supports up to 2.1 gig, win95a came out when fat16 was the only thing out. fat32 supports 2.1+ gig so win95a will work with it you just cannot format the drive in fat32 with a 95a boot disk.
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OwlguruCommented:
Here are the steps to make sure that your version of Windows supports FAT32. 1. Right-click My Computer and choose Properties.
2. Look under the 'System' heading for version 4.00.950. Now, make sure there is a 'B' after the version number. If the 'B' is there, Windows supports FAT32. If not, upgrade to Windows 98.

To convert your drive to FAT32, use Partition Magic(my only suggestion) or upgrade to Windows 98.

I hope this resolves any doubts you may have.
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compmaniaCommented:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!?!?!?!?!?
WINDOWS 95A << SEE THAT? SUPPORTS THE FAT32 FILE SYSTEM BUT SINCE IT CAME OUT EARLIER THAN FAT32 WAS MADE THEN YOU CANNOT FORMAT THE DRIVE WITH A 95A BOOT DISK AS FAT 32, WINDOWS 95A DOES SUPPORT FAT32!
YOU CAN USE A 95B BOOT DISKETTE AND FORMAT IT AS FAT32, INSTALL 95A AND IT WILL WORK FINE!

NOW STOP POSTING WRONG ANSWERS.

Sorry, you people just ticking me off because I have to keep saying it.
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compmaniaCommented:
I found another program that should convert it: (in case the other doesn't work)

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10096-100-914828.html?tag=st.dl.10001_103_1.lst.titledetail
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compmaniaCommented:
Well thofram?
Did it work?
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cdesignerCommented:
Web site:  http://www.powerquest.com

2. FILE SYSTEM SUPPORT
----------------------
In addition to the documented partition type support, PartitionMagic 4.0
also supports FAT16X, FAT32X, and ExtendedX partitions.

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compmaniaCommented:
cdesigner: please do not post an answer to a rejected answer before, it "locks" the question and not as many people can get to it, thofram wanted a free program that did the same thing as PM.

Did it work thofram?
Need some input.
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thoframAuthor Commented:
I tried to make a FAT32 pertition, but my win95 Setup-disk couldn't work with it, so the install of windows just hanged...
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compmaniaCommented:
why are you trying to install windows again?
what exactly happens?
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thoframAuthor Commented:
First I tried to use cvt. This program just didn't do anything. Then I tried to convert my harddrive with tho program part. It turned out that it had to format my harddisk. So I tried to reinstall windows, but the setup-program didn't recognise the FAT32 partition, I had to repartition it to FAT16...
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AdamWoodlandCommented:
I tried installing W95(pre OSR2) and although it gets partly through the install, it failed at the same place everytime.

We were using fdisk and creating a 4GB FAT32 patition, so setup wasn't continuing. We create 2x2GB FAT16 partitions and it installed first time perfectly.

Not that I'm saying the W95(pre OSR2) doesn't like FAT32. Maybe it didn't like the fact that it was larger than 2GB. We didn't test to see if the install will work on a 2x2GB FAT32 partitions.

If W95(pre OSR2) does (fully?) support FAT32, why didn't install work?
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compmaniaCommented:
I have never had a problem with it. If you used the program I listed above (from www.download.com) why did you have to format???
You should have been able to use the entire disk as Fat32 with that program. When did it have a problem?
In the middle of installing?
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thoframAuthor Commented:
So what you say is I should use Ranish partition manager again, change the partition type from FAT16 to FAT32, save the partition table without formating, and I have converted my harddisk?
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foulcCommented:
YOu Guys listen:

Win95 first version does NOT support FAT32 , stop bullshit.



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compmaniaCommented:
Yes, I am going to go try running my old copy of a with fat32 enabled. See if I can find what went wrong.
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compmaniaCommented:
I think I know how you need to do it. Install W95a on the Fat16 drive then use ranish to change it to Fat32 without formatting.
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rayt333Commented:
At this time, Windows 95 OEM Service Release 2 and Windows 98 are the only operating systems capable of accessing FAT32 volumes. MS-DOS and the original version of Windows 95 do not recognize FAT32 partitions, and are unable to boot from a FAT32 volume.

Windows 95 supports two new partition types (0E and 0F) to support the logical block addressing (LBA) INT13h extensions as specified in the Windows 95 Driver Development Kit
  (DDK).

     Partition  Fdisk                                    Starting in
     Type       Reports      Size            FAT Type    version
     ------------------------------------------------------------------
     01         PRI DOS      0-15 MB         12-Bit      MS-DOS 2.0
     04         PRI DOS      16-32 MB        16-Bit      MS-DOS 3.0
     05         EXT DOS      0-2 GB          n/a         MS-DOS 3.3
     06         PRI DOS      32 MB-2 GB      16-bit      MS-DOS 4.0
     0E         PRI DOS      32 MB-2 GB      16-bit      Windows 95
     OF         EXT DOS      0-2 GB          n/a         Windows 95

  Types 0E and 0F require extended Int13 support.
   NOTE: Type 0E is the same partition type as 06, and 0F is the same as 05. However, applications should use the (LBA) INT13h extension's read/write functions to read from or write to the drive instead of the normal Cylinder/Head/SectorPerTrack (CHS) INT13h functions because the hard disk has more than 1024 cylinders and/or more than 16,711,680 sectors. Note that earlier versions of FDISK recognize these Windows 95 partitions as NON-DOS partitions.

Windows 95 OEM Service Release 2 (OSR2) and Windows 98 support two new partition types (0B and 0C) to support the FAT32 file system. For additional information about FAT32, please see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
       ARTICLE ID: Q154997
       TITLE : Description of FAT32 File System
  The partition types supported by OSR2 and Windows 98 are as follows:

     Partition  Fdisk                                          Starting in
     Type       Reports      Size                  FAT Type    version
     ---------------------------------------------------------------------
     01         PRI DOS      0-15 MB               12-Bit      MS-DOS 2.0
     04         PRI DOS      16-32 MB              16-Bit      MS-DOS 3.0
     05         EXT DOS      0-2 GB                n/a         MS-DOS 3.3
     06         PRI DOS      32 MB-2 GB            16-bit      MS-DOS 4.0
     0E         PRI DOS      32 MB-2 GB            16-bit      Windows 95
     0F         EXT DOS      0-2 GB                n/a         Windows 95
     0B         PRI DOS      512 MB - 2 terabytes  32-bit      OSR2
     0C         EXT DOS      512 MB - 2 terabytes  32-bit      OSR2


So your answer is to use FAT32 then you must upgrade to a new OS, like Win98
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ElmerFudCommented:
rayt333 is right.  If you don't got Win95B or higher, you will not be able to run FAT32.
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thoframAuthor Commented:
I tried all companias suggestions, but I guess in the end Win95a simply can't work with FAT32....
Thank you all anyway for helping!
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compmaniaCommented:
Then how come I remember running it on a 95a?
Don't know how I did it but I remember doing it...
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