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Posted on 2000-03-04
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My windows 98 has got stuck sorting the files on my Pc my descending date.

i.e. If I go to open a file from any program, like Word, the files and directories are sorted by descendng date.  It is incredibly annoying.

I have tried changing folder attributes to sort by ascending name.  I have run scandisk and scanreg, Virus checked, but nothing makes any difference.

If I look at the directory and file structure through 'My Computer', everything is in the correct sort order.  This problem only becomes apparent when I use any application software.

Has anyone got an idea about this ?

Thanks,

Dave.
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Are you using thhe active desktop and view as a webpage?
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Try opening the files as usual, say in Word. Then one of the buttons in the open dialog will switch the view to details view. Activate the details view and click on name header. This will resort your files into name order. Next time you go to this dialog your files should be in name order rather than modified order.
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AidanHolmes, you are new to this site, and with that, welcome. However, unlike Newsgroups and Usenets, we observe a protocol or policy at this site with which you should become familiar. Experts do not post proposed answers that are incomplete or that are speculative, nor do they post proposed answers that incorporate the comments of others that have preceded you. By doing so, you block the question from the view of another expert who may have a solution to the problem. Since questioners can accept comments as answers, it is beneficial to the questioner that speculative answers be posted as comments, especially when the issue involves further troubleshooting. Hopefully you will cooperate with us in the future.

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I realise this now. Other things that I have posted are comments. The protocol wasn't made clear to me until I wondered around the site and found a page relating to etiquette.
The answer I provided is correct though, UNLESS the install of Win98 has become corrupted and explorer is fogetting directory settings.
dmcqueen didn't actually metion other applications that this problem occurs in so I only checked Word.
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by:dmcqueen
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Firstly, No, I am not using Active Desktop, and am not viewing as a Web Page.

Secondly, I have tried sorting using the column headers, and it does resort the files into the designated sort order, but it does not keep the settings.  

The next time into file open, the order has reverted to descending date.

Strangely, Office 2000 applications do not exhibit this problem, but all other applications do including IE5.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Dave McQueen.
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dmcqueen, here are a couple of things to try:

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Shut down any programs you may have running in the background. Go to Start->Run and type msconfig then click Selective Startup and uncheck the Load Startup group items. Close and reboot.

Once Windows restarts double click My Computer go to View and then select Folder Options. Click on the View Tab and make sure the box “Remember each folders view settings” is checked. Then press OK.

Double click C drive and go to View and Arrange Icons by Name. All icons should now be sorted by name. Hold down the CTRL key and click the [X] in the upper right corner of the window to close it. This forces Windows to remember the setting. Now reopen C drive and see if your files are listed by name. Next select the first folder from C and open it. See if it is now arranged by name. If it is great if not go to View and Arrange icons by Name then hold down the CTRL key when closing the folder to force it to remember the setting. Use msconfig to check box Load Startup group items again so you will have them in the background once more. Reboot.

We hope this helps anyone else who maybe having similar problems. Also if you have TWEAKUI installed go to the Explorer Tab and make sure that the “Save Explorer windows settings” box is checked.

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There are 3 ways to accomplish this.

1.      Click Start, Programs and then left click and hold on the item and slide it wherever you wish.

2.      The second way is to: Click Start, Programs and then right click on the programs menu and then choose "Sort by Name”.

3.      The third way requires a registry edit. If you’re comfortable editing the Windows Registry and then this is what needs to be done.

Click Start, Run and type in REGEDIT and click OK. Scroll down until you come to this registry key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\StartMenu\&Programs\Menu

It's a long way down there to that key, so be sure you get the correct one.

Once there, on the right side/pane, delete the binary order key, leaving behind only the Default line. Now close and save.

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Thanks, sanity has returned to my desktop.

Dave.
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LOL, glad I could help!
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