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table bkgd & alignment problems with Netscape
I am developing a website, and am having some trouble with table background colors in NS. Also, some alignment problems with NS v.s. IE as well.
The page link is: http://www.otcbbstockwatch.com/testpage.shtml
If you load this page in IE, you will see it as it is suppossed to look. If you then load it in NS, you will notice that the table on the left margin titled registration does not have a dark blue background in the bottom cell.
Also, the images next to the text in the body of the page are aligned right (I cheated and used text as spacers, invisible on the page because they are the color of the background. This might be part of the problem here, but I couldn't get it to align only the images, and not the text to the right.) The images I refer to are the ones next to the text: OTCBBStockwatch.com, In Focus, Forums, Markets, Tools, Audio/Video, Monitor. (They are grayscale images).
It seems like no matter what I do, I cannot get the table backgrounds to match up in NS and IE. I am developing with Dreamweaver 3.0. Of course what I design in DW looks just like it is suppossed to in IE, but not in NS. I am thinking that there is some trick to coding the nested tables that is specific to NS but also works in IE????
Any help is appreciated.
The page link is: http://www.otcbbstockwatch.com/testpage.shtml
If you load this page in IE, you will see it as it is suppossed to look. If you then load it in NS, you will notice that the table on the left margin titled registration does not have a dark blue background in the bottom cell.
Also, the images next to the text in the body of the page are aligned right (I cheated and used text as spacers, invisible on the page because they are the color of the background. This might be part of the problem here, but I couldn't get it to align only the images, and not the text to the right.) The images I refer to are the ones next to the text: OTCBBStockwatch.com, In Focus, Forums, Markets, Tools, Audio/Video, Monitor. (They are grayscale images).
It seems like no matter what I do, I cannot get the table backgrounds to match up in NS and IE. I am developing with Dreamweaver 3.0. Of course what I design in DW looks just like it is suppossed to in IE, but not in NS. I am thinking that there is some trick to coding the nested tables that is specific to NS but also works in IE????
Any help is appreciated.
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CJ_S is right about this ...
"The background color for the one cell, having it in the TR (Tablerow) is okay, but you should put a space ( ) between the TD and the /TD."
Reason: Netscape won't put color into a cell background unless there is something in the cell. Don't ask me why, that's just the way it is.
Site looks real good in IE
Good luck
"The background color for the one cell, having it in the TR (Tablerow) is okay, but you should put a space ( ) between the TD and the /TD."
Reason: Netscape won't put color into a cell background unless there is something in the cell. Don't ask me why, that's just the way it is.
Site looks real good in IE
Good luck
The same for printing. If you have multiple frames with backgrounds, and the printing settings are so that the background will be printed too, then you NEED to have something in the frame, not only a background. If there's nothing in it but the background image then that won't be printed.
That's really weird.
That's really weird.
As for the alignment of the tables ...
I try to keep the habit of using all percentages. Also, I agree, try to avoid using %100 width. I find that this usually produces scrollbars.
I try to keep the habit of using all percentages. Also, I agree, try to avoid using %100 width. I find that this usually produces scrollbars.
That's because it makes the *content* of the table 100% wide, so borders, offsets and padding push the edge of the table over, creating scrollbars.
I make the page using mostly absolute widths so that it fits in an 800x600 monitor, then make the entire page table centered so at a greater resolution it's nicely balanced.
ALthough most of the time I use frames rather than table layouts becuase they are easier to manage/navigate and look better.
I make the page using mostly absolute widths so that it fits in an 800x600 monitor, then make the entire page table centered so at a greater resolution it's nicely balanced.
ALthough most of the time I use frames rather than table layouts becuase they are easier to manage/navigate and look better.
Subhuman, I agree with you there. We also use frames, and sites for 800 x 600 as a minimum.......it'll be balanced in the center of the screen if it's a greater than than that resolution.
hi! mmonline
i think i am quiet clear with your question.
infact i had also the same problem with
my website.
try the following things;
- if any cell is empty and you have applied a colour on it as a bg , then
write ' ' between your <td> and </td>
tags.
see you soon.
i think i am quiet clear with your question.
infact i had also the same problem with
my website.
try the following things;
- if any cell is empty and you have applied a colour on it as a bg , then
write ' ' between your <td> and </td>
tags.
see you soon.
Graphico!
CJ_S and I already stated that as comments! That's plagarism!
CJ_S and I already stated that as comments! That's plagarism!
fibdev, he did the same with another question......oh well.
Graphico, maybe an idea for you.....READ first, THEN answer....
And please don't put something as an answer, but place Comments....cuz this'll lock the question. And Comments can be taken as answers too.
Graphico, maybe an idea for you.....READ first, THEN answer....
And please don't put something as an answer, but place Comments....cuz this'll lock the question. And Comments can be taken as answers too.
Why do people always do that? The worst thing is when the thread dies before the asker returns, then the stupid answer gets autograded. :(
What exactly IS autgrading? I never encountered any such thing. Maybe cuz I'm only here for a like 1.5 month now?
When a *locked* thread hasn't been posted to in a while (sorry, I'm not sure exactly how long), the propsed answer is given an automatic grade of a C. This is to ensure that answerer get the points (ie, to stop people asking questions then ignoring them when they get the answer they want).
Similarly if a thread hasn't been touched for a while and it is unlocked, it gets auto deleted.
Both of these instances can be avoided by simply posting to the thread regularly. It also means that the person who asked the question keeps getting notification emails reminding them of there pending question.
Similarly if a thread hasn't been touched for a while and it is unlocked, it gets auto deleted.
Both of these instances can be avoided by simply posting to the thread regularly. It also means that the person who asked the question keeps getting notification emails reminding them of there pending question.
so.....if the questioner doesn't come back here, this guy who posted a copy will get the points? UHMMMM......
Unless you keep posting to the thread occasionally, yes. :(
ASKER
I apologize to all for not getting back to this thread. I enjoyed the Holiday weekend a little too much.
In regards to Graphico's answer, I appreciate your response, however the question was answered by CJ S, with comments by Subhuman and Fibdev contributing to the final accepted answer.
Thank you to all, and I will divide the points up, giving CJ S 250, and 25 each to Fibdev and Subhuman for their contributions.
Thanks again for making EE such a great forum for those of us who need a little help once in a while!
In regards to Graphico's answer, I appreciate your response, however the question was answered by CJ S, with comments by Subhuman and Fibdev contributing to the final accepted answer.
Thank you to all, and I will divide the points up, giving CJ S 250, and 25 each to Fibdev and Subhuman for their contributions.
Thanks again for making EE such a great forum for those of us who need a little help once in a while!
ASKER
Thanks CJ S, I was going to try and give 25 pts. to the other two contributors also, but I guess I cannot break them up?? If there is a way to do this and I just don't know it, maybe you could help out.
You could ask EE to divide the points, I don't know how though.
Thanks :)
It's easy... post a question worth 25 points called "Points for <user's name>", just say something like "thanks for the help in my question," then we will "answer" the thread and get the points.
When you've posted the questions with the points, tell us in here so we get an email notification of it. :)
It's easy... post a question worth 25 points called "Points for <user's name>", just say something like "thanks for the help in my question," then we will "answer" the thread and get the points.
When you've posted the questions with the points, tell us in here so we get an email notification of it. :)
Glad I could help ... not to worried about the points, but I do appreciate them. happy scripting
ASKER
Go get your points guys.......
<tr valign="top" bgcolor="#000063">
<td height="18"></td>
This is where the table bgcolor is not working in NS.
try changing these lines to
<tr valign="top">
<td height="18" bgcolor="#000063"> </td>
I havent tested this but I don't think NS likes having the color defined in the TR.
Other than this and some minor deviations in font sizes (which are inevitable), the page looks the same in IE5 and NS4.7