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installing hard drive and cd-rom

on a 40 wire ribbon cable, there are 3 40 pins connectors.  The one farthest from the 2 is inserted to the motherboard.  My question is about the second two.  Does it matter how you hook up the second two to what drive (CD, HD) if you set the master and slave?  I heard that the CD and HD can be on seperate cables to enhance performance.  How would you set it up?  Can both be set as masters?
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> I don't THINK the connector matters on an IDE cable.

It does, but only when you have an ATA66-capable motherboard, an ATA66-capable hard-drive, _and_ an ATA66 ribbon-cable.

In that case, the "blue" end must connect to the motherboard, and the hard-drive (jumpered as "master") must connect to the other end of the ribbon-cable.

Another special case is when you have a "cable-select" ribbon-cable, and have jumpered both IDE devices to enable "cable-select".
Hey, thanks.  I knew that on the ATA-66, but not on the cable-select.
Nope... Just make sure that the part of the cable that goes into the back of your ide device(s) has the red side of the cable towards where the power supply hooks up with that device. Also, make sure to have your drives jumpered correctly.  (Ie Master and Slave).  
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What do you mean if the drive is by itself you have to set it to Single or some other designation, I thought the only 2 options were slave and master.  And if they were on seperate cables both would be master since I will not add anything else on both cables other then the CD and HD.
adding more to my comment, on my CD drive the jumpers can be set to either C, S, and M.  S and M means slave and master repectively.  Does the C mean single?
on your CD drive
C means Cable Select, the only people I know who use that feature is Compaq, you need a special IDE cable to use the Cable select
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it's possible you'll find that jusmper setting on hard drives as wel
What I meant by "Single or some other designation" was that some drives have either no markings at all, or DS, or various other weird things.  Also, some devices want no jumper at all if the device is the only thing on the channel.  You really have to check for the device itself.  In lieu of better info, I would recommend setting a single device to Master, and see how it works.  Best is to get specific info on that device, though.
Some older drives have 3 settings:
 - master (with _NO_ slave attached)
 - master (slave _IS_ attached)
 - slave

Yes, 'C' is "cable-select".
whats the purpose of cable select?  faster? cheaper?
Cable select was easyer to use. But I haven´t seen these cables for a long time.
I suggest you set both HD and CD as masters and plug them in the primary (HD) and scondary (CD) IDE controllers. It´ll enhance your performance.
As some people refered before, the M or MA means master, the S or SL means Slave and C os CS means Cable Select.

Also regard that some theorical people advice you to use both ends of the cable, leaving the middle conector empty. If one of the ends of the cable is empty it may work as an antenna, receiving some interference that would make it work in not so good conditions.