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w2000 HeapAlloc and RtlAllocateHeap
I have an NT program that calls HeapAlloc by specifying the import from KERNEL32.DLL
When I debug the application using MSVC I see that the code that should be calling the HeapAlloc function in KERNEL32.DLL is instead pointing to RtlAllocateHeap in NTDLL.DLL
Now this would not normally matter but it is important for me because of the following reasons.
I am writing a 'wrapper' which encrypts the original exe file and when I unwrap it I effectively carry out the functions of the Windows loader and automatically point the import to the HeapAlloc in KERNEL32.DLL as specified in the import table.
On running the program however it causes an exception shortly after entering HeapAlloc.
Looking at other 'Heap' routines such as HeapCreate I can see that they are pointing to the ones I expect in KERNEL32.DLL.
Question.
What is causing this effect?
How can I emulate the windows loader to change this (and perhaps other imports) which are being forced from one dll to another?
When I debug the application using MSVC I see that the code that should be calling the HeapAlloc function in KERNEL32.DLL is instead pointing to RtlAllocateHeap in NTDLL.DLL
Now this would not normally matter but it is important for me because of the following reasons.
I am writing a 'wrapper' which encrypts the original exe file and when I unwrap it I effectively carry out the functions of the Windows loader and automatically point the import to the HeapAlloc in KERNEL32.DLL as specified in the import table.
On running the program however it causes an exception shortly after entering HeapAlloc.
Looking at other 'Heap' routines such as HeapCreate I can see that they are pointing to the ones I expect in KERNEL32.DLL.
Question.
What is causing this effect?
How can I emulate the windows loader to change this (and perhaps other imports) which are being forced from one dll to another?
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Under NT the HeapAlloc() function does not actually exist anywhere on the system--any code which calls it is automatically forwarded to this RtlAllocateHeap() function you've come across. (This is an instance of Win32 function forwarding, which is a feature of Win32 DLLs). It's implemented like this because the heap allocation procedure has to work at a lower level than KERNEL32.DLL allows. If you called GetProcAddress() with the HeapAlloc implementation in KERNEL32 it would silently call itself to find the right entrypoint in NTDLL.DLL, which may or may not help your other situation. To be honest trying to emulate the Windows loader is going to be very difficult under NT, which does a lot of its work at a level you can't access from user-mode code.
pjknibbs
Are there any resources you are aware of that explain this action? Do you know if this type of forwarding is used on any other call other than HeapAlloc or can it be done on any call?
Are there any resources you are aware of that explain this action? Do you know if this type of forwarding is used on any other call other than HeapAlloc or can it be done on any call?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/specs/pecoff_section6_3.htm
(see section 6.3.2)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/periodic/period96/S202B.htm
These references are all what you need.
(see section 6.3.2)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/periodic/period96/S202B.htm
These references are all what you need.
icd: You can find out which calls in a DLL are forwarded by using DUMPBIN /EXPORTS on it. I tried this with KERNEL32 and it listed four of the HeapXXXX functions, plus critical section functions, as "forwarded to XXX".
You can set your own DLLs up to have forwarded functions, but the documentation on how to do it is woefully skimpy.
You can set your own DLLs up to have forwarded functions, but the documentation on how to do it is woefully skimpy.
pjknibbs
You were the first to explain what was going on.
NickRepin
Your web references were exactly what I needed to change my code (which now works!)
I feel that NickRepin deserves the points since his comment was the most relevent to my solving the problem but I don't want to upset pjnibbs.
You were the first to explain what was going on.
NickRepin
Your web references were exactly what I needed to change my code (which now works!)
I feel that NickRepin deserves the points since his comment was the most relevent to my solving the problem but I don't want to upset pjnibbs.
You have two choices:
1) Ignore my contribution, since, as you admit, NickRepin's references solved your problem.
2) Split the points by asking in the Community Support section if they'll split the question.
1) Ignore my contribution, since, as you admit, NickRepin's references solved your problem.
2) Split the points by asking in the Community Support section if they'll split the question.
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