How to change splash screen at startup

I need to customize!
Under 98 we changed the logo.sys, logos.sys, etc....

How can we change the startup and shutdown branding under 2000?

zeddockAsked:
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mtoadminCommented:

There a utility from Ontrack capable of doing so. But the powerdesk freeware doesn't seem to have this feature. When I go back to my office on monday, I can change it and see which file is actually modified.

http://www.ontrack.com/

mtoadmin



zeddockAuthor Commented:
Thanx.  Found nothing in particular on their site, though.  Any guesses might help me get this done so that I can do a burn test over tomorrow.

Thanx.
mtoadminCommented:
Depends in which time zone you are ;-) I can give you an answer by noon central european time tomorrow.

I got this feature with Fix it 2000, so if you have 50 $ to spend and a credit card, you can go ahead right now.
When you purchase Fix it 2000, you have power desk for free. Install both because I can't remember if it's a feature of fixit 2000 or power desk.
If it's not too big, I can try to download it from my office.

keep you posted...

mtoadmin
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PortangCommented:

I suppost you wannt customize the Win2000 Pro, so .. in the \WINNT folder locate the two files :
winnt.bmp and
winnt256.bmp
Replace them with the bitmap of your liking. If your system is running at more than 256 colors, then don't bother with the winnt.bmp.
If you want to customize Win2k server, look for lanmannt.bmp and lanma256.bmp files.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
I can wait that long.  Thank goodness for time zones!

Thanx.
PortangCommented:
Time zone different in seconds !
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Have any luck with which files need to be changed?
mtoadminCommented:
winnt256.bmp
PortangCommented:
Basically you save the original file as a different name and replace it with the bitmap of your own and name it winnt256.bmp.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Where do you think this file is?  I cannot seem to find it, at all.
PortangCommented:
They are right in the \WINNT subdirectory. Sorry I forgot to mention, they are "HIdden" and "System".
PortangCommented:
Can you find them ?
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Any restrictions to the size, color or format of the file?  Once it is found?
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Not there.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
I tried copying a bmp as winnt256.bmp in the WINNT sudirectory....
No difference.

What version of W2K are you seeing this on?  Is it a RC?

When are you seeing the different graphic come up?  On boot?

Do you think that if I purchase the OnTrac software, it would allow me to make the change?
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Adjusted points from 200 to 300
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Just upped the points.
PortangCommented:
There are two files, winnt.bmp and winnt256.bmp, for 256 and above color display .
When you copied the new file, are you sure you've renamed the original one ?
On your Windows Explorer, click "Tools" and select "Folder Options...", on the "View" tab, make sure you select "Show hidden files and folders" and UNcheck "Hide protected operating system files"
Then you should be able to see the two BMP files.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Duh!
I hadn't unchecked system files in views!<G>

OK Found the files.  I renamed but system wants to hold onto them still, and use them!  I am trying to Delete, now.

Again,  any restrictions on the bmp I put in their place?

zeddockAuthor Commented:
I can't get rid of them!!!! urgh!

They can't be changed from "hidden" in the properties.  No matter how I rename them there is no change on startup.

I have looked at the files and they seem to be what I am after.  I have not yet tried to empty the recycle bin, but will try.

Any other ideas?
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Also, I wonder about size of the graphic....  I will try to duplicate.
PortangCommented:
Sorry for the delay, let me re-product it and get back to you.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
emptied Recycle bin.
configed a graphic to the same size and depth.

Still not working.

When you change the splashes using OnTrac, do you see any sign of WIN2K at startup?  I mean all the way through the boot process?  Or am I working hard to just change one screen?
zeddockAuthor Commented:
It is interesting that I could not change the 'hidden' property.  When I tried to connect and work with the graphic file, I couldn't see it from my other system!  I had to copy it to the other machine before I could see it.

I checked the registry to see if it was following the moving file, but there was no reference.
PortangCommented:
I apologyze these steps only works under NT.
Gotta figure out a new way in Win2k.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
are you gunna try? Or are you giving up?

If so, it was a good try.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
are you gunna try? Or are you giving up?

If so, it was a good try.
PortangCommented:
After several extensive search found no yet.
Still trying...
But it's a good experience to know something so challenging.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Adjusted points from 300 to 600
zeddockAuthor Commented:
You ain't kidding....
Everytime I think I have found something, I find I have not.

Still.....
Experts Exchange is the place I ask the hard questions.  We have the best here.

ZoplaxCommented:
This should do the trick:

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Displaying Your Company Logo (or other bitmap) during logon.

Design an appropriate bitmap and place it in your NT directory as YourLogoName.BMP. Use 8.3 naming convention.

Edit: HKEY_USERS \.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop

Double click or Add Value REG_SZ of Wallpaper and set it to the full path to YourLogoName.BMP.

Double click or Add Value REG_SZ of TileWallpaper. 0 is Don't tile, 1 is tile.

Double click or Add Value REG_SZ of WallpaperStyle. 0 is normal, 2 is stretch to fill the screen (which is mutually exclusive with TileWallpaper = 1).

If you use a normal, not tiled logo, you can position it by adding the following REG_SZ values:
WallpaperOriginX set to the number of pixels from the left hand edge of the screen.
WallpaperOriginY set to the number of pixels from the top of the screen

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ZoplaxCommented:
Oops, nevermind, this is for the logon screen, not the startup.
mtoadminCommented:

A reasonable approach would be to disable the splash screen with a /noguiboot in the boot.ini and to customize the logon screen as described in many comments before.

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect /noguiboot

mtoadmin



mtoadminCommented:
If you really want to change the splash screen, it's not going to be easy !
The bitmap is contained in the executables:
ntkrnlpa.exe
ntoskrnl.exe

You can verify this using a bitmap extractor such as:
http://personal.primorye.ru/tim/bex/index.htm

Now, you can either find a tool to replace a bitmap in an executable or play directly with the binary file.
Given the usefulness of customizing this compared to its actual difficulty, I wouldn't bother doing that.

mtoadmin


mtoadminCommented:
Ok, here's a tool to replace the bitmaps...

http://www.bome.com/Restorator/

Let's test this out ! ;-)
mtoadminCommented:
Ok, it is working !

Here's how to proceed:
(At your own risk !)

Logon as local administrator and make sure you can view the hidden and system files & directories.

-1- Download Restorator from:
http://www.bome.com/Restorator/ 
-2- start Restorator
-3- Open the file: c:\winnt\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
-4- Select the first bitmap and extract to a bmp file (Right click...)
-5- Edit the bmp file
-6- Assign the bmp file back to the embedded bitmap.
-7- Close and save as the original ntoskrnl.exe to the dllcache (c:\winnt\system32\dllcache) and to the original location c:\winnt\system32\
If the dllcache is in the form of one cab file called drivers. It's possible to extract all the files just to the dllcache directory.
If the file is correctly modified in both the system32 and the dllcache, the system file protection of Windows 2000 should be faked...

If the file protection complains, choose the option in order to keep your modified version.

Ok, it works but I'm still wondering if it is really useful.
You should also take into account that a service pack is very likely going to replace this file as well and you'll have to redo the work each time, either on the system or on the service pack... (To be tested)

mtoadmin


zeddockAuthor Commented:
Adjusted points from 600 to 700
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Great Job!  You have done a lot of work.

It is worthwhile as we put these systems in retail store across the USA.  If they see a lot of Windows stuff they try to load other software, which sometimes interferes with our kiosk software.

If you can... The text... "starting windows..."  With the bars that come across the bottom....  Can I remove them, or change them?  Also, you had said above that I could go with a nogui.  Please be more specific in the steps, if that will eliminate some of the requesters I am trying to hide.  BTW, will that remove the desktop, too?  Can't do that.<G>  We need to get to it from time to time.
mtoadminCommented:
Try the procedure as I described it, you will see the bitmaps you can change:
- Splash screens (Pro, Server, ....). you can change everything except the blue bar across and the progress bar. You can even remove the copyright (Not legal !)
- Hibernating window.
- "It's now safe to turn off" window.

The noguiboot can be used to bypass the splash screen.

If you desire to customize any other text windows, you can find them quite easily by using the same method as I used.
I don't think it's possible to change the "starting windows..." text.

I still post this as a comment. I would appreciate a lot if you accept my comments as answer as actually it took some work to find out a solution to your problem. Contact me for more information. (netshield@yahoo.com)

Thanks

mtoadmin

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zeddockAuthor Commented:
Good job.
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Adjusted points from 700 to 750
zeddockAuthor Commented:
Comment accepted as answer
zeddockAuthor Commented:
That text... "Starting Windows", with the bars is the only thing left. You did a great job.
mtoadminCommented:
You're welcome ;-)

mtoadmin
Dead_WinterCommented:
Zeddock,

This is a thread from a long time ago and came across it when searching about this topic.

To change the 'Starting Windows...' message you need to edit the NTLDR file in the C: root.

It's there in plain text.

I used UltraEdit to change it and works like a charm.

Just thought I mention it.
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