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dos bootdisk for OLD dos games

here is a copy of my autoexec.bat and config.sys

autoexec.bat

SET BLASTER=220 I5 D1 T4
MOUSE.COM
@ECHO OFF
SET PROMPT=$P$G
GOTO %CONFIG%

:MSDOS
MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /E
GOTO COMMON

:COMMON

config.sys

[MSDOS]
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=EMM386.EXE RAM

[COMMON]
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
BREAK ON
BUFFERSHIGH=20,0
dos=high,umb
FCBSHIGH=1,0
filesHIGH=40
stacksHIGH=9,256
SWITCHES=/F

i know some of this is not right but can someone help?

I have a old PB.... p233 S606 with a crystal sound card in it, The sound command line is right and is in the right spot, but one of the other command lines is interfearing with it. I have gotten the sound to work befor but i cant rember what order that thay go in. The "SET BLASTER=220 I5 D1 T4" command is all i need in dos for the sound.

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What kind of problem do you have ?

Does everything loads fine (without error) ?
mem /d/p shows the drivers on memory (mscdex, mouse, etc) ?
Have you run the sound blaster setup prog to be sure the port number, irq, etc are correct ?

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sorry shood have put that in, cds work, mouse works, sound dose not work and theres not a setup prog... for it and windows just puts the sound in "SET BLASTER=220 I5 D1 T4" i do not know how to get it to work the command line is correct but it has something to do with common ?

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and with getting it all in the right order

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davidbaxterbrowne

Here is an excerpt from my autoexec.bat
for commands for my SoundBlaster16.

The same probably won't work for you,
but you need some similar commands.

There is nothing in your autoexec.bat or config sys that initializes your sound card. The SET BLASTER line just sets an environment variable.

Look on your C drive for similar programs. Also dredge through any old autoexec.??? files you have on this or past hard disks.

Regards,

David

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
C:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /LINE:220 /TREBLE:0
C:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S

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check http://www.soundblaster.com/scripts/download.asp?file=http://www.clok.creaf.com/creative/drivers/sb16awe/95dosapp.exe
there you'll find a programa (diagnose) that will find the correct port, dma, irq for the board (if that's not sb16) take a look at http://www.soundblaster.com/drivers/ and choose the correct board

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How do you know it´s right?
Have you used the sb tool I pointed you?

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sorry i tryed it it did not work.

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what happened ? Maybe your bord is not a soundblaster 16. this tools is avaiable to the other board as well.

merith

What is the sound card? Get the exact model type and chip set. Go to the manufactures site and check for a dos driver. Just loading the pieces of soundblaster 16 init strings is not going to work for 60% of the sound cards out there.

A search of the internet indicates that the PB Multimedia S606 has an integrated Crystal sound chip. As you may know PB is no more. Their support has been taken over by http://pbsupport.alorica.com/

Try here for the updated driver for the sound card.

ftp://216.160.248.47/pub/audio/dspsetup.exe

Good luck
Jeff

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How are you sure the sound command line is correct ?
Try removing removing everything from high memory (just for testing).
If still does not work try removing one by one (mouse, cd support, etc) untill you get the sound board working. (do not suppose it´s working, test it, make it "speak")

Have you tryed the old DOS friend NDIAGS ?

Maybe some of the devices are conflicting.

Go into device manager and look at the sound card properites:

Is there a SB compatable entry?

If so check the I/O, IRQ, and DMA it uses to ensure it is 220, 5 and 1. If not either change the autoexec.bat of change it here.

If no SB Compatable check the resources used by the parent device the last resources should be for the SB compatability.

Again if you boot directly into DOS you will need a driver loaded either in the AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS

Jeff

Device manager ? It´s DOS we´re talking about...

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merith

He's only suggesting using devman to find out what the settings should be for dos.

rhoady is right. There is no device or program in config.sys or autoexec.bat to handle the sound board. This will only work if the game you´re using has native support to this board and does not need a device loaded. Is that the case ?

Sorry about the Device Manager reference forgot that DOS was Boss.

I believe that MB has an integrated sound card.

Get into the BIOS Setup for on board periferial (SP) devices and check that.

If you can figure which sound chip you have you can download the driver (and DOS programs) from here http://www.cmedia.com.tw/

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My motherboard is way newer then that, also have a Crystal onboard but the only options I have is enable/disable it. No way to know what resources it´s using.

Nexus -
Do you have the drivers loaded???

We can't do much without the drivers.

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my sound card dose not use drivers is dos...

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my sound card dose not use drivers in dos...
sorry for the typo.

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sorry my question has not been very clear. I have made some changes that might help you a little.

Have you run NDIAGS or other software that can show you irqs beeing used?
Is there any test program to be sure the soundboard is working? Have you tried any of them?
Have you tried running the game with just the sound (without mouse, cd)?

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Forgot to say. my crystal inboard card uses 3 irqs (Blergh).
This, in my opinion, shows some kind of lasyness from the part of the manufacturer and enjoys conflicting with the usb port.

Nexus - I think i just found it!!!
Try
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4

Note A220 not just 220

Jeff

Not sure, but I think that the original question text showed that way

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Why do you keep increasing the points so much?

amitbalboul

hi Nexus
1.there is an "A" missing in
set BLASTER=A220...

2.try replcing device=EMM386.EXE RAM
to : device=EMM386.EXE NOEMS,

tell me if its work

bye
Amit

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Subhuman cuse no one has answer it

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set BLASTER=A220 is right, but my sound still dose not work if no one get the question i will give it to you

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ummm NEVERMIND that last Comment i did not read all of the Comments SORRY.

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"Not sure, but I think that the original question text showed that way"
it did not

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autoexec.bat

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
MOUSE.COM
@ECHO OFF
SET PROMPT=$P$G
GOTO %CONFIG%

:MSDOS
MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /E
GOTO COMMON

:COMMON

config.sys

[MSDOS]
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=EMM386.EXE RAM

[COMMON]
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
BREAK ON
BUFFERSHIGH=20,0
dos=high,umb
FCBSHIGH=1,0
filesHIGH=40
stacksHIGH=9,256
SWITCHES=/F

This is what my boot disk looks like now, it still dose not work

Sorry to insist.
Are you sure the sound is working (ablt to work)
do you have any test software ?
Have you checked for conplicting irqs ?

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>Subhuman cuse no one has answer it

Increasing the points like that won't do much. Most of the reason there's no answer is because hardly anyone reads this topic area anymore. If it was a more populated topic area, you'd have had an answer long ago. Increasing the points won't help, because no matter how much you increase the points, there's still going to be hardly anyone seeing the thread.

You could try posting a 0-point question in the lounge with a link to this thread, then you'll get more input and hopefully an answer. :)

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Doh! Forgot to log Matt out first. ;) <another dude at my school who also uses EE>

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exelrud im shure the sound command line is right now. i have had a boot disk working befor on my computer i just cant rember how

The reason I asked is that maybe something may have happened to the sound board.
Also what the game says. It says that there is not sound present or just does not make any noise?

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merith

Going to give this a shot,

1. Does the sound card work? Have you confirmed that this card is capable of running in a dos mode? Does it work in windows?

2. When not booting from a boot disk, does sound work in DOS? (boot to command line and type the set blaster command at the prompt. then test it)

3. It may not be the setup of your autoexec/config files, test the sound using another dos game if you got one, if not get one.

So to start, confirm the card works...
second, test the card to see if it works when in dos mode?

Let me know the results of those two tests.....

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to exelrud the sound bord works fine...
and if during boot with the bootdisk it dose not say loading sound drivers it will not work. when loading a game it says fm chip is not present that means that the sound did not load...

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to merith

1. Does the sound card work? Have you confirmed that this card is capable of running in a dos mode? Does it work in windows? yes the sound card dose work.
the sound card dose work in msdos mode.
and yes the sound dose work in windows

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to merith

2. When not booting from a boot disk, does sound work in DOS? (boot to command line and type the set blaster command at the prompt. then test it)

no it dose not

tryed did not work

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to merith

3. It may not be the setup of your autoexec/config files, test the sound using another dos game if you got one, if not get one.

yes it is

i tryed blood, shadow warrior, doom, duke nukem 3d.

So this game that does not get the sound working. Does it have another setup ? Maybe it's configured to use another sound board...

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if the sound dose not load on boot with the bootdisk it will not work so messing with the games is pointless.

wsh2

You NEED / have to load the DOS Drivers for the sound card!!! In the SB16 examples above you will notice the lines:

c:\sb16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /LINE:220 /TREBLE:0
c:\sb16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S

These are loading the DOS Creative Labs sound card drivers. As the Crystal Sound chipset is manufactured by AzTech, the Creative Labs (a different manufacturer) DOS drivers above will NOT work.

To get the AzTech DOS Drivers for your computer (assuming you don't have the original Cd-Rom / Diskettes that came with your computer) you can go to this site.

http://www.windrivers.com/identity/SOUND/company/crystal.htm

This page will tell you how to identify which Sound Card that you have (pay particular attention to the Packard Bell section on the bottom of the page) and will provide links to the necessary Driver downloads.

Normally, the DOS Drivers come with their own AUTOEXEC.BAT update routines (Make sure you make a copy of your old AUTOEXEC.BAT first, just to be safe), but the tendency of these setups is to place the necessary statements anywhere in the .BAT. Once the DOS Driver Setup is done, be prepared to move the statements added to the AUTOEXEC.BAT into the MS-DOS section of your AUTOEXEC.BAT file as you don't want the DOS drivers loading when you are going into Windows.

dkkelso

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6

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kideng

A couple of things. First off, what are the name of the games you're trying to run? And secondly, are you running DOS only on that computer or Windows 95/98? If you're doing 95/98, you can take a look at the device manager to find out what interrupts and DMA the sound card uses.

Have you tried to run the game in DOS prompt in Win95/98 or even <gasp> Windows 3.1?

wazoo69

Just some other pointers that I used
to throw in my old config.sys/autoexec.bat

stick a "LOADHIGH" in front of MOUSE.COM and MSCDEX.EXE

ie.

LOADHIGH MOUSE.COM
LOADHIGH MSCDEX.EXE /D:001 /E

minor mods, but if you're in DOS mode it'll free up some conventional memory for ya..

As for your sound problems, that's the EXACT same line I used to have (after editing those @$#@'ing files enough you begin to remember the most obscure commands), so my only thought is if you have the card on the right IRQ (ie. have you checked the jumpers on the board itself?), AND if you're running win95/98, make sure it's running YOU'RE autoexec.bat and NOT theirs...could be you're editing the same file over and over, but the computer just isn't using it..:(

just my 2 cents..
wazoo

wazoo69

oh and change device to devicehigh in your config.sys

ie.
instead of device=oakcdrom...(blah, blah)
try devicehigh=oakcdrom...(blah, blah)

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autoexec.bat

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
mouse.com
SET MSINPUT=C:\MSINPUT
@ECHO OFF
SET PROMPT=$P$G
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD0001 /E

config.sys

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM

device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd0001
Break On
BuffersHigh=20,0
DOS=High,UMB
FCBSHigh=1,0
FilesHigh=40
StacksHigh=9,256
Switches=/F
device=c:\windows\cwbinit.exe /A

i got it

people please read all the post first befor posting

It appears that device=c:\windows\cwbinit.exe /A is the device driver for the Crystalware audio device. Now who was the first one to say that you had a Crystal sound card and needed the device drivers to EMULATE a soundblaster???

Jeff

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I suggested searching emulator Tuesday, August 08 2000... at the time the suggestion was posted we were not sure if the sound card was clone or original SB...

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wsh2

paasky is correct.. he was the first to comment DOS drivers.. directing the questioner to the Creative Labs Sound Blaster site. Noting this.. On August 15th, I ADDED some additional technical comment and redirected the questioner to the correct DOS Driver site befitting the hardware he/she has.. (AzTech is Crystal's chip manufacturer).

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To get the AzTech DOS Drivers for your computer (assuming you don't have the original Cd-Rom / Diskettes that came with your computer) you can go to this site.

http://www.windrivers.com/identity/SOUND/company/crystal.htm

This page will tell you how to identify which Sound Card that you have (pay particular attention to the Packard Bell section on the bottom of the page) and will provide links to the necessary Driver downloads.

>>

Armed with the correct DOS drivers installed, running the DOS game in question should be no problem.. <smile>.

kideng

You can always get a new sound card for like 20 bucks. Heh.