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How easy is to create a full database with a good structure for a military purpose?
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Good question......
Igor
Igor
You do realise that this question is for 0 points don't you?
That aside, I'd suggest going with Access (if you're data is going to be fairly small) or SQL Server if you need something a bit bigger. After that you can easily connect using the ADO components
The Neil =:)
That aside, I'd suggest going with Access (if you're data is going to be fairly small) or SQL Server if you need something a bit bigger. After that you can easily connect using the ADO components
The Neil =:)
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I can't give a points because they don't let me do it.SO Access or Paradox?
It sounds like your fairly new to relational databases. I would have to suggest getting a good book on the subject and reading up on the concepts before designing your structure. Otherwise, you'll end up hitting some major design pitfalls. Other than that, Neil is correct in suggesting Access (although I hate it) and SQL Server. If you want to support a system that a good deal of users will be accessing, and that will grow to a good size then SQL Server is a good bet, but it will cost you. Interbase supports fairly well and its free. I think a good deal of military apps are already running on Interbase (that was Interbases originaly purpose as I remember)...
Access definitely over Paradox. Paradox just comes with Delphi, that's the only reason I mentioned it. Interbase is free that's why I mentioned that. Access is fairly easy to get started on, although it can lead users the wrong way because of how easy it is to use.
A nice 'side effect' of using Access is that is has a fantastic SQL designer if you need one so you can build up complex (but fast) SQL statements. The ADO stuff just makes things really easy to connect
The Neil =:)
The Neil =:)
lots of laughs
now yoy will recommend access or paradox for military purposes
no wonder submarines sink ;-((
now yoy will recommend access or paradox for military purposes
no wonder submarines sink ;-((
about points, there is a problem at the moment at EE for new points attribution.
(the 5 points a day feature)
(the 5 points a day feature)
Now that I think about it I don't think I actually like the idea of Access looking after a load of Nuclear missiles...Could I have accidentally suggested the end of the world - oops
The Neil =;)
The Neil =;)
mmm nice question history ...
dont suppose you thought about buying points or accepting some of the answers to your previous q's ...
dont suppose you thought about buying points or accepting some of the answers to your previous q's ...
more details on MSAccess vs. Paradox on http://www.delphi3000.com/article.asp?ID=1193
Notis,
You can also do a search in the Database area. Use the keywords
"which" or "choose" and "database". There are quite a few PAQ's on this issue.
done my good deed for the year, now just sit back and relax, ahhh.
You can also do a search in the Database area. Use the keywords
"which" or "choose" and "database". There are quite a few PAQ's on this issue.
done my good deed for the year, now just sit back and relax, ahhh.
yes time to rest ;-))
who would be willing to help militars, specially for 0 points <LOL>
I spent all my life avoiding to work for them *for money* ;-))))
who would be willing to help militars, specially for 0 points <LOL>
I spent all my life avoiding to work for them *for money* ;-))))
see http://http://www.borland.com/delphi/cases/
there some military database apps described
and of course the databasedesign is indepenent
from the frontend you will use
there some military database apps described
and of course the databasedesign is indepenent
from the frontend you will use
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Some of them think that it is funny.I thought that are men and not little boys who want to play with the others problems.So i need help from mature people who are experts and not kids.
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For Kretzschmar: Thanks for the address but it is not for me.Thnaks anyway.
Notis, maybe men can be mature enough to know who they want to help and who they don't want to help.
Actually, we are not *playing* with your problems we are helping *who we want* with knowledge that took us years to acquire. And this activity takes lots of our time.
speaking personnally, I am deeply convinced that if nobody would be building weapons and what goes around, militars would have nothing more than knifes to *play* with.
of course, stays the problem of beeing able to defend yourself (nice justification for producing more effective weapons), and that I am not convinced that if nobody would produce weapons, the human kind would be *better* with it. (would be a step however)
however, I managed all my life to stay away from this industry, even after have been asked for a quite good salary, and I don't know why I would begin to do it for free ;-)).
Despite your judgement, speaking for myself, I consider this attitude as rather responsible.
And as finally, when I will die, what will be important for me will be to look back at my life, to ask myself if I it was decent, and if I did something to Mankind. And as at this moment, before God, the only person who will be able to give an answer to this question will be me, your judgement today about my attitude has a very low weight ;-))
Hope you will find your answers though, because I don't want to receive by mistake a missile in my bathroom ;-)))
cheers, Marc
Actually, we are not *playing* with your problems we are helping *who we want* with knowledge that took us years to acquire. And this activity takes lots of our time.
speaking personnally, I am deeply convinced that if nobody would be building weapons and what goes around, militars would have nothing more than knifes to *play* with.
of course, stays the problem of beeing able to defend yourself (nice justification for producing more effective weapons), and that I am not convinced that if nobody would produce weapons, the human kind would be *better* with it. (would be a step however)
however, I managed all my life to stay away from this industry, even after have been asked for a quite good salary, and I don't know why I would begin to do it for free ;-)).
Despite your judgement, speaking for myself, I consider this attitude as rather responsible.
And as finally, when I will die, what will be important for me will be to look back at my life, to ask myself if I it was decent, and if I did something to Mankind. And as at this moment, before God, the only person who will be able to give an answer to this question will be me, your judgement today about my attitude has a very low weight ;-))
Hope you will find your answers though, because I don't want to receive by mistake a missile in my bathroom ;-)))
cheers, Marc
By the way, you did not tell us which country you are working for !!
Experts I would like to warn you that depending on the relation you country has with Notis' country you might be performing a betrayal <G>
Experts I would like to warn you that depending on the relation you country has with Notis' country you might be performing a betrayal <G>
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I don't work for anyone ok?.The misile was an example.All i want is to make a good database adding numbers and names for soldier with their guns numbers.(Every gun has a number on it).Adding his name and etc i will put his number.I think u didn't understand me.I am not a military gay.I wotk in a office.So What is going to be.And something else I hate people who support Usa.
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I don't work for anyone ok?.The misile was an example.All i want is to make a good database adding numbers and names for soldier with their guns numbers.(Every gun has a number on it).Adding his name and etc i will put his number.I think u didn't understand me.I am not a military gay.I work in a office.So What is going to be.And something else I hate people who support Usa.
I just know Oracle doesn't allow to use their products for military projects.
hi notis,
go away from the military explainantion and say simple,
you've workers and each worker has its toolbag, which
identified by a number.
in this case you've two tables
a worker table where is contained a unique toolbag-id
and a toolbag table where the toolbag-table is described
thats all
meikl
go away from the military explainantion and say simple,
you've workers and each worker has its toolbag, which
identified by a number.
in this case you've two tables
a worker table where is contained a unique toolbag-id
and a toolbag table where the toolbag-table is described
thats all
meikl
to aargc,
see my link above, there are also military apps which uses oracle
meikl
see my link above, there are also military apps which uses oracle
meikl
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It's to dificult to use oracle.What is the conection with some other good database?
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what is that link? Can i see it?
Notis,
Relax my friend, everything in life doesn't need to be so serious, and it is just that, err, well this Q is worth about 0 (zero) points.
Anyway I think the response has been overwhelming and also all work and no play makes military gay a dull guy;-)
best of luck
Relax my friend, everything in life doesn't need to be so serious, and it is just that, err, well this Q is worth about 0 (zero) points.
Anyway I think the response has been overwhelming and also all work and no play makes military gay a dull guy;-)
best of luck
Is Notis gay then?
The Neil =;)
The Neil =;)
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I am not gay.Mistake i confused the words gay and guy.I wanted to write guy and from speed i write gay.Ok?.
Ok, I think this whole conversation is getting out of hand. Have you gotten anything of use out of this yet Notis?
If not, please restate what you need to know. You have to understand though that the 0 point part of this directly reflects on how professionally people are willing to be when answering you. I realize EE has been having problems with points lately, but you do have several ancient PAQ out their that you have not excepted answers on...
If not, please restate what you need to know. You have to understand though that the 0 point part of this directly reflects on how professionally people are willing to be when answering you. I realize EE has been having problems with points lately, but you do have several ancient PAQ out their that you have not excepted answers on...
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I think TheNeil is a big a....e.
Let's all just settle down here...
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What do u mean by that?
Oops. It was just a joke. I shall have to take my sarcasm elsewhere...
The Neil =:(
The Neil =:(
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That's better.I dont't like that kind of jokes because if i start to make jokes u will prefer to live in Mars.I am trying to get get help from someone and noone can understand what is my problem.It is a simple database which i entry names and numbers.I will not launch any missile.I don't know how to connect them in Delphi.Do i ask much?
What you need to do is add an ADO connection to your project. You can then set the connection string topoint to your database. After that you can issue queries, post data etc. How you go about all of this depends on what sort of database you're using but the ADO connection will make a lot of this irrelevant (which I'm sure I've spelt wrong but what the hell)
The Neil =:)
The Neil =:)
Notis said : "Some of them think that it is funny.I thought that are men and not little boys who want to play with the others problems.So i need help from mature people who are experts and not kids."
Ok so u are a MEN. Is that why u are so aggressive? Overdose of testosterone perhaps? hehe
Ok so u are a MEN. Is that why u are so aggressive? Overdose of testosterone perhaps? hehe
Id also liek to voice my opinion about Army-thing: I believe the army is like the police : a necessary EVIL, necessary because of human nature. Until we can "invent" a better human being, we're stuck with it.
Just my 2 cents
Just my 2 cents
this thread seems to loose the point to the question . . .
just to go back to the point of question
notis,
it is easy to make a database-frontend with delphi, which can add, delete and search. for this basics you need a few procedures and this only for the search feature.
meikl
notis,
it is easy to make a database-frontend with delphi, which can add, delete and search. for this basics you need a few procedures and this only for the search feature.
meikl
it was lost long ago
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no coomment.no right answer
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Hang on, didn't I suggest using ADO a couple of comments back?
The Neil =:(
The Neil =:(
Yes and I suggest DAO, ODA, OAD, AOD, and DOA <G>
THeNeil it was a 0 points question anyhow ;-)))))
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how can i delete this question?
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don't send any comments
Mhervais,
Oh yeah, forgot that... oops if I post this it'll remove the deletion. Oh well what the heck
The Neil =;)
Oh yeah, forgot that... oops if I post this it'll remove the deletion. Oh well what the heck
The Neil =;)
origional Q:
>>How easy is to create a full database with a good structure for a military purpose?
>>Add,delete,SEARCH,...
Answer:
The database you need must be created with database development tools such as:
Paradox db => Database Desktop
Interbase gdb => SQL scripts
Access mdb => uhm Access
and so on and so forth...
how easy is it? I do not think it will be very hard to design a database that must be able to hold data for all the guns in the greek army (both of them)
Now the add, delete, and SEARCH are functionality that you will have to program yourself in a front end (like delphi) that will access the data and perform the various functions. This will not be difficult to do, but it is difficult to do it well.
btw
if you need points:
your Frontpage question https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=10839601
is posted in the wrong forum, you can delete it and assign the 10 pts here
>>How easy is to create a full database with a good structure for a military purpose?
>>Add,delete,SEARCH,...
Answer:
The database you need must be created with database development tools such as:
Paradox db => Database Desktop
Interbase gdb => SQL scripts
Access mdb => uhm Access
and so on and so forth...
how easy is it? I do not think it will be very hard to design a database that must be able to hold data for all the guns in the greek army (both of them)
Now the add, delete, and SEARCH are functionality that you will have to program yourself in a front end (like delphi) that will access the data and perform the various functions. This will not be difficult to do, but it is difficult to do it well.
btw
if you need points:
your Frontpage question https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=10839601
is posted in the wrong forum, you can delete it and assign the 10 pts here
karoo, how do you know that this guy is Greek ;-))
I would bet for Lybian, or Iranian...
any other guesses?
What is sure, is that with the questions he is asking, the army is not near to get it's software ;-))
I would bet for Lybian, or Iranian...
any other guesses?
What is sure, is that with the questions he is asking, the army is not near to get it's software ;-))
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They don't have an idea some of them
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I don't think so...
Notis,
There are a lot of usefull information which was provded by some of the old timers here in EE and may I say it was provided *gratis*.
Notis,
There are a lot of usefull information which was provded by some of the old timers here in EE and may I say it was provided *gratis*.
Well said
The Neil =:)
The Neil =:)
Nasty little guy. Afaik I did not send you a personal insult here, and I deny you the rights to insult me
Your behaviour has been reported to the helpdesk.
insulting me personally, you infringe this clause of the user agreement :
* posting, transmitting or linking to defamatory and libelous statements or other statements that would violate any third party's privacy or publicity rights
I requested the deactivation of your account
insulting me personally, you infringe this clause of the user agreement :
* posting, transmitting or linking to defamatory and libelous statements or other statements that would violate any third party's privacy or publicity rights
I requested the deactivation of your account
I was more worried about the use of swearing myself
The Neil =:(
The Neil =:(
Sorry TheNeil, I do not get your idea
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To mhervais: u are sissy. Malaka!
don't know what it means anyhow
mhervais,
I agree with you and support you on the deactivation of this persons account.
good work
I agree with you and support you on the deactivation of this persons account.
good work
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This from a man who comes from a country where the national pastime is putting garlic up various orifices. Tsk, tsk, tsk
The Neil =:(
The Neil =:(
sticks and stones...
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Linda Gardner
Community Support
Linda Gardner
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Thanks Folks
Notis, You are aggravating your case.
I think that EE's help desk will have not problem to know what to do with you
Notis, You are aggravating your case.
I think that EE's help desk will have not problem to know what to do with you
that too bad, hes just gonna create another account. It just looks to me as a case of intense (sexual?) frustration, which makes him lash out.
NOtis, anyone ever told u are better off attracting bees with honey than with vinegar?
NOtis, anyone ever told u are better off attracting bees with honey than with vinegar?
Simonac, Of course I know that he is going to create another account, but he will stay with the bitter taste that he has been thrown out from here.
this might teach him something
this might teach him something
I doubt it will (and Yes, I bet he's sexually drustrated too)
The Neil =:(
The Neil =:(
mhervais, theneil,
I can't believe you guys would go to CS after taunting this person for his use of English (as a second language), your ridicule of his profession, and finally you accuse him of being gay and out of line with the site.
What exactly did you expect. You asked for every bit of his anger by giving him a hard time. It is you two who IMO who should have been talked to about behavior in the site. If you want to act like that, you're welcome to come joke and be sarcastic in the lounge, but lay off this guy.
You knew this was a zero point question from the word go. If this was unacceptable you could simply ignore the ? and move on, but you instead decide to attack him and complain when he retaliates.
I wonder what the tech forums are coming to...
I can't believe you guys would go to CS after taunting this person for his use of English (as a second language), your ridicule of his profession, and finally you accuse him of being gay and out of line with the site.
What exactly did you expect. You asked for every bit of his anger by giving him a hard time. It is you two who IMO who should have been talked to about behavior in the site. If you want to act like that, you're welcome to come joke and be sarcastic in the lounge, but lay off this guy.
You knew this was a zero point question from the word go. If this was unacceptable you could simply ignore the ? and move on, but you instead decide to attack him and complain when he retaliates.
I wonder what the tech forums are coming to...
Dear MS diablo, have u taken time to look at his(notis) Q: history and looking at them? If u did (which I doubt), and still have the same opinion, well then u too have an attitude problem.
There are 2 way to react to criticism: evaluate it and make change if deemed appropriste, or react with anger and dirty words. Notis choose the second way, which is unnaceptable at EE.
There are 2 way to react to criticism: evaluate it and make change if deemed appropriste, or react with anger and dirty words. Notis choose the second way, which is unnaceptable at EE.
mount diablo afaik, I did not accuse him of being gay and I made no sexual or personal insults during all this thread
and I got deeply insulted (I think probably you had no occasion to read what was written)
further more, This guy went to look my personal information before he wrote his insult, so that to write it a way that would hurt me more
look better at least before I got insulted
1) I did not accuse ridiculize his profession, but I said that I have not been wanting to work for the army, and I will not begin now.
2) I raised the point that (as a gag because I do not think that this question concerns military secrets) that by helping the army of another (unknowned) country could lead uns to give informations to some countries with which our own is in embargo or with which our concience would never let us give help if we knew what country it is for.
Would you in concience give even one line of code for the army of a country in civil war that is responsible for the death of hundreds of thouthands of people ?
I wouldn't. But internet is made such way that we are giving advices to people without knowing what they are going to be used for.
Please admit that when I know, I have the right to react accordingly.
I requested his radiation not only because he insulted me, but because he went to look in my personal information in order to make his insult stronger, and because he insulted my family.
regards Marc
and I got deeply insulted (I think probably you had no occasion to read what was written)
further more, This guy went to look my personal information before he wrote his insult, so that to write it a way that would hurt me more
look better at least before I got insulted
1) I did not accuse ridiculize his profession, but I said that I have not been wanting to work for the army, and I will not begin now.
2) I raised the point that (as a gag because I do not think that this question concerns military secrets) that by helping the army of another (unknowned) country could lead uns to give informations to some countries with which our own is in embargo or with which our concience would never let us give help if we knew what country it is for.
Would you in concience give even one line of code for the army of a country in civil war that is responsible for the death of hundreds of thouthands of people ?
I wouldn't. But internet is made such way that we are giving advices to people without knowing what they are going to be used for.
Please admit that when I know, I have the right to react accordingly.
I requested his radiation not only because he insulted me, but because he went to look in my personal information in order to make his insult stronger, and because he insulted my family.
regards Marc
thanks Simonac. I thought I was getting nuts
I have looked at a few:
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=11092546
Nothing unusual
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/bin/BuyPAQ?qid=11080465
Same thing (actually he didn't take the bait offered him)
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/bin/BuyPAQ?qid=11072385
Same thing (didn't take *your* bait)
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=11072225
Again, you baited.
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=10839862
Not sure but it appears he ditched a user for 0 points. Perhaps he answered himself and was thanking the attempt. Don't know.
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=10839601
Mistaken question pending del.
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/bin/BuyPAQ?qid=10838642
Sounded frustrated.
Now, I paid points to and looked at all of his BV questions. My results:
He seems to hold on to points. Well, it's his "money" If he gets a better deal for help, then so be it. If your "charge" is higher then you have every right to walk away from the start.
What I did see was an attempt by a couple of people to keep reminding him of his history rather than help. If all you want is points then ignore him after you get burned rather than attack him. If you wish to discuss this with him then invite him to the lounge where this kind of discourse is more appropriate.
This is the way people are enticed to visit this site? I like to think I am seeing this from the outside and I am able to be a bit more objective than those of you involved in mudslinging. Which is just as unacceptable as swearing.
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=11092546
Nothing unusual
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/bin/BuyPAQ?qid=11080465
Same thing (actually he didn't take the bait offered him)
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/bin/BuyPAQ?qid=11072385
Same thing (didn't take *your* bait)
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=11072225
Again, you baited.
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=10839862
Not sure but it appears he ditched a user for 0 points. Perhaps he answered himself and was thanking the attempt. Don't know.
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=visualbasic&qid=10839601
Mistaken question pending del.
>>https://www.experts-exchange.com/bin/BuyPAQ?qid=10838642
Sounded frustrated.
Now, I paid points to and looked at all of his BV questions. My results:
He seems to hold on to points. Well, it's his "money" If he gets a better deal for help, then so be it. If your "charge" is higher then you have every right to walk away from the start.
What I did see was an attempt by a couple of people to keep reminding him of his history rather than help. If all you want is points then ignore him after you get burned rather than attack him. If you wish to discuss this with him then invite him to the lounge where this kind of discourse is more appropriate.
This is the way people are enticed to visit this site? I like to think I am seeing this from the outside and I am able to be a bit more objective than those of you involved in mudslinging. Which is just as unacceptable as swearing.
Some cross posting there.
mhervais,
>>no wonder submarines sink ;-((
And that is no insult to someone who puts his life on the line in defense of his country? For shame.
>>Would you in concience give even one line of code for the army of a country in civil war that is responsible for the death of hundreds of thouthands of people ?
It's a database. It won't be running any missiles, so please don't get on the moral high horse. Anyway, do you think a beginner (yes I read his other threads) is producing code for high level mil anything?
mhervais,
>>no wonder submarines sink ;-((
And that is no insult to someone who puts his life on the line in defense of his country? For shame.
>>Would you in concience give even one line of code for the army of a country in civil war that is responsible for the death of hundreds of thouthands of people ?
It's a database. It won't be running any missiles, so please don't get on the moral high horse. Anyway, do you think a beginner (yes I read his other threads) is producing code for high level mil anything?
It seems that people are now trying to rationalize actions.
Before I take this even more afeild, I would like to point to the appropriate place for discourse of this nature:
https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=lounge&qid=11109265
There. Now can you help solve a technical issue, and keep the jocularity in the lounge or will you continue to pester this user? If you want points, click the other questions link.
All interested parties are invited to the linked ? above.
Before I take this even more afeild, I would like to point to the appropriate place for discourse of this nature:
https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=lounge&qid=11109265
There. Now can you help solve a technical issue, and keep the jocularity in the lounge or will you continue to pester this user? If you want points, click the other questions link.
All interested parties are invited to the linked ? above.
BTW, it's MR diablo.
well first of all MS was for Mister.. (I am kinda french too so my mistake should have been MR).
Second: no matter if hes been "pestered", there really is no excuse for the way he responded - have u seen the "edited by community support" on notis comments? Well, I read his comments before they were removed, and really, thats not the kind of attitude that is acceptable - NO MATTER WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TO HIM. He has no sense of humor, is very aggressive and VERY insulting. Now, yes we could have just moved on to another Q: and forget about it, just as u could have done with this Q:.....
Second: no matter if hes been "pestered", there really is no excuse for the way he responded - have u seen the "edited by community support" on notis comments? Well, I read his comments before they were removed, and really, thats not the kind of attitude that is acceptable - NO MATTER WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TO HIM. He has no sense of humor, is very aggressive and VERY insulting. Now, yes we could have just moved on to another Q: and forget about it, just as u could have done with this Q:.....
Last comment here. As I said I opned the other thread.
Simonac, You insulted him. Period. Whatever he wrote, it was instigated by you and others. A sense of humor on your part may be interpreted by someone who speaks english poorly as being insulting.
Waiting it the lounge, though I don't know how much more I can say since it's seems the defences are up now.
Simonac, You insulted him. Period. Whatever he wrote, it was instigated by you and others. A sense of humor on your part may be interpreted by someone who speaks english poorly as being insulting.
Waiting it the lounge, though I don't know how much more I can say since it's seems the defences are up now.
1) MontDiablo the whole thread was this please dont cut it and change its meaning
> lots of laughs
>now yoy will recommend access or >paradox for military purposes
>no wonder submarines sink ;-((
as you cans see it was not adressed to notis, but to the people who recomend him those databases for military purposes.
may I remind you that they have no logs and that they need frequent repairs.
I am Highly convinced that they are no adapded for military purposes and this is what my thread is saying.
you canniot take a piece of sentence out of it's context to try to get a point for your idea. I think this is not very honest. At least you could have asked what I ment there.
2) Notis spoke first about missiles not me
> It's a database. It won't be running any missiles, so please don't get on the moral high horse. Anyway, do you think a beginner (yes I read his other threads) is producing code for high level mil anything?
I agree that he seems to be a beginner, but he seems to be a beginner of everything and that questions me about knowing if he would be one on many persons on the same account account
about the thought that a database equipement would no be involved in running a weapon I think that you are probably living in another planet.
3) About the lounge, I am not very keen to follow you there. My mother made me strong warnings about this sort of attitude with a stranger, and I am bot sure that she would appreciate.
besides, I think that almost everything was said on the subject.
regards, Marc
> lots of laughs
>now yoy will recommend access or >paradox for military purposes
>no wonder submarines sink ;-((
as you cans see it was not adressed to notis, but to the people who recomend him those databases for military purposes.
may I remind you that they have no logs and that they need frequent repairs.
I am Highly convinced that they are no adapded for military purposes and this is what my thread is saying.
you canniot take a piece of sentence out of it's context to try to get a point for your idea. I think this is not very honest. At least you could have asked what I ment there.
2) Notis spoke first about missiles not me
> It's a database. It won't be running any missiles, so please don't get on the moral high horse. Anyway, do you think a beginner (yes I read his other threads) is producing code for high level mil anything?
I agree that he seems to be a beginner, but he seems to be a beginner of everything and that questions me about knowing if he would be one on many persons on the same account account
about the thought that a database equipement would no be involved in running a weapon I think that you are probably living in another planet.
3) About the lounge, I am not very keen to follow you there. My mother made me strong warnings about this sort of attitude with a stranger, and I am bot sure that she would appreciate.
besides, I think that almost everything was said on the subject.
regards, Marc
1Well, I forgot to turn off notify, so I suppose I will respond after all. And since you got the user removed I think the ? will be ignored anyway.
1. Not you insult me with claims of dishonesty? I merely pointed out that you and the others brought this on yourselves and each of you were culpable for what happened.
He stated that this DB was for an inventory. What would that have to do with subs? Do you think the lives of 118 men with families is something to scoff at? So you insult me and the dead who cannot defend themselves? Why insult the military of Russia. I seem to remember your country having some issues of its own. Those in glass houses....
I have not been out of context. You, however, have.
2. I live on this planet, and I was in the USN. I was one of the first in line when computers hit town. I helped my ship do inventories with L123. He sounds like a beginner alright. And he is doing a task similar to a stockkeeper. Do you have problems with civilians who inventory things? Would you prefer that a military not know what guns and serial #s for those guns exist? Maybe this kid was keeping weapons from disappearing into places where they burn McD's for fun? I would think you would wish any mil to have control of its armories.
3. Well don't then. You would find a number of people who could debate the ethics of insulting new users who speak english poorly. Some would be on your side. Others would not. It's an open forum where *ideas* are discussed and where people can take differences of opinion off the beaten track so the tech areas are not turned into boxing rings.
So be proud of yourselves. The bunch of you have defeated a single youth who had a rudimentary knowledge of english. What an accomplishment.
1. Not you insult me with claims of dishonesty? I merely pointed out that you and the others brought this on yourselves and each of you were culpable for what happened.
He stated that this DB was for an inventory. What would that have to do with subs? Do you think the lives of 118 men with families is something to scoff at? So you insult me and the dead who cannot defend themselves? Why insult the military of Russia. I seem to remember your country having some issues of its own. Those in glass houses....
I have not been out of context. You, however, have.
2. I live on this planet, and I was in the USN. I was one of the first in line when computers hit town. I helped my ship do inventories with L123. He sounds like a beginner alright. And he is doing a task similar to a stockkeeper. Do you have problems with civilians who inventory things? Would you prefer that a military not know what guns and serial #s for those guns exist? Maybe this kid was keeping weapons from disappearing into places where they burn McD's for fun? I would think you would wish any mil to have control of its armories.
3. Well don't then. You would find a number of people who could debate the ethics of insulting new users who speak english poorly. Some would be on your side. Others would not. It's an open forum where *ideas* are discussed and where people can take differences of opinion off the beaten track so the tech areas are not turned into boxing rings.
So be proud of yourselves. The bunch of you have defeated a single youth who had a rudimentary knowledge of english. What an accomplishment.
1) > Not you insult me with claims of dishonesty? I merely pointed out that you and the others brought this on yourselves and each of you were culpable for what happened.
I will now withdraw one word of what I wrote about what consists to take a bit of a sentence to try to make it's point regardless of the context
2) He stated that this DB was for an inventory. What would that have to do with subs? Do you think the lives of 118 men with families is something to scoff at? So you insult me and the dead who cannot defend themselves? Why insult the military of Russia. I seem to remember your country having some issues of its own. Those in glass houses....
I already commented this point.
as you seem not to have read it the first time this is my comment again :
< as you cans see it was not adressed to notis, but to the people who recomend him those databases for military purposes.
may I remind you that they have no logs and that they need frequent repairs.
I am Highly convinced that they are no adapded for military purposes and this is what my thread is saying. >
I was insulting nobody, specially not the 118 people who died in the submarine.
let me remind you however that accidents are more likely to happend when people rely on a non adapted technology.
if you see an insult in these words, I think it is rather your problem than mine because I know what was my intentions when I wrote this in the first time
3) > I live on this planet, and I was in the USN. I was one of the first in line when computers hit town. I helped my ship do inventories with L123. He sounds like a beginner alright. And he is doing a task similar to a stockkeeper. Do you have problems with civilians who inventory things? Would you prefer that a military not know what guns and serial #s for those guns exist? Maybe this kid was keeping weapons from disappearing into places where they burn McD's for fun? I would think you would wish any mil to have control of its armories.
Having been a militar is apparently why you are so touchy about this case;
This is what I wrote in the beginning of this thread :
<speaking personnally, I am deeply convinced that if nobody would be building weapons and what goes around, militars would have nothing more than knifes to *play* with.
of course, stays the problem of beeing able to defend yourself (nice justification for producing more effective weapons), and that I am not convinced that if nobody would produce weapons, the human kind would be *better* with it. (would be a step however)
however, I managed all my life to stay away from this industry, even after have been asked for a quite good salary, and I don't know why I would begin to do it for free ;-)). >
unless you understood it the first time, it means that I do not stop you to build to sell or to make the inventory of missiles, would I want to stop you , I would not be able to do it, but I managed no to be involved in it and I am not beginning at EE.
Of course I would prefer to know where the missiles are, but I would deeply prefer that they would not have been built at the first time with my tax paying for it.
First we paid to make them, then we paid to store them now we pay to destroy them. great no ;-)))
And you know what, we probably gave the money to the same companies to build them and to destroy them.
My country has a powerful militar industry, and I am not proud of it.
with the justification that it helps to be a strong country, and that many people rely on this for their living, we sell officially or not weapons to countries whose managers are only willing to take the juce of their people like they would do on sponges, and to kill them if they resist.
at this time many of those industries are in deficit, but we prefer to keep them running rather that to reconvert them, because selling weapons is the open door for many occult commissionings, while selling cars si not so much.
I do not say that I do not want militars to exist and to work , I only say that the system they defend is undefendable.
4) to close about this, I want to say that I might have been offending in the eyes of notis, but I was not insulting
> So be proud of yourselves. The bunch of you have defeated a single youth who had a rudimentary knowledge of english. What an accomplishment.
Again I do not think in terms wanting to defeate someone (you might be however, otherways you would not evoke it in these terms) .
The reaction of notis was not appropriate to the offense. It was inacceptable, against EE's agreement, and besides, I will never let nobody use these words with me, even would he be in front of me and much stronger than me.
So I asked EE about closing his account, and apparently they gave rights to my demand.
Hope this will close the subject,
Regards, Marc
I will now withdraw one word of what I wrote about what consists to take a bit of a sentence to try to make it's point regardless of the context
2) He stated that this DB was for an inventory. What would that have to do with subs? Do you think the lives of 118 men with families is something to scoff at? So you insult me and the dead who cannot defend themselves? Why insult the military of Russia. I seem to remember your country having some issues of its own. Those in glass houses....
I already commented this point.
as you seem not to have read it the first time this is my comment again :
< as you cans see it was not adressed to notis, but to the people who recomend him those databases for military purposes.
may I remind you that they have no logs and that they need frequent repairs.
I am Highly convinced that they are no adapded for military purposes and this is what my thread is saying. >
I was insulting nobody, specially not the 118 people who died in the submarine.
let me remind you however that accidents are more likely to happend when people rely on a non adapted technology.
if you see an insult in these words, I think it is rather your problem than mine because I know what was my intentions when I wrote this in the first time
3) > I live on this planet, and I was in the USN. I was one of the first in line when computers hit town. I helped my ship do inventories with L123. He sounds like a beginner alright. And he is doing a task similar to a stockkeeper. Do you have problems with civilians who inventory things? Would you prefer that a military not know what guns and serial #s for those guns exist? Maybe this kid was keeping weapons from disappearing into places where they burn McD's for fun? I would think you would wish any mil to have control of its armories.
Having been a militar is apparently why you are so touchy about this case;
This is what I wrote in the beginning of this thread :
<speaking personnally, I am deeply convinced that if nobody would be building weapons and what goes around, militars would have nothing more than knifes to *play* with.
of course, stays the problem of beeing able to defend yourself (nice justification for producing more effective weapons), and that I am not convinced that if nobody would produce weapons, the human kind would be *better* with it. (would be a step however)
however, I managed all my life to stay away from this industry, even after have been asked for a quite good salary, and I don't know why I would begin to do it for free ;-)). >
unless you understood it the first time, it means that I do not stop you to build to sell or to make the inventory of missiles, would I want to stop you , I would not be able to do it, but I managed no to be involved in it and I am not beginning at EE.
Of course I would prefer to know where the missiles are, but I would deeply prefer that they would not have been built at the first time with my tax paying for it.
First we paid to make them, then we paid to store them now we pay to destroy them. great no ;-)))
And you know what, we probably gave the money to the same companies to build them and to destroy them.
My country has a powerful militar industry, and I am not proud of it.
with the justification that it helps to be a strong country, and that many people rely on this for their living, we sell officially or not weapons to countries whose managers are only willing to take the juce of their people like they would do on sponges, and to kill them if they resist.
at this time many of those industries are in deficit, but we prefer to keep them running rather that to reconvert them, because selling weapons is the open door for many occult commissionings, while selling cars si not so much.
I do not say that I do not want militars to exist and to work , I only say that the system they defend is undefendable.
4) to close about this, I want to say that I might have been offending in the eyes of notis, but I was not insulting
> So be proud of yourselves. The bunch of you have defeated a single youth who had a rudimentary knowledge of english. What an accomplishment.
Again I do not think in terms wanting to defeate someone (you might be however, otherways you would not evoke it in these terms) .
The reaction of notis was not appropriate to the offense. It was inacceptable, against EE's agreement, and besides, I will never let nobody use these words with me, even would he be in front of me and much stronger than me.
So I asked EE about closing his account, and apparently they gave rights to my demand.
Hope this will close the subject,
Regards, Marc
sorry read this :
1) > Not you insult me with claims of dishonesty? I merely pointed out that you and the others brought this on yourselves and each of you were culpable for what happened.
I will NOT withdraw one word of what I wrote about what consists to take a bit of a sentence to try to make it's point regardless of the context
instead of this
1) > Not you insult me with claims of dishonesty? I merely pointed out that you and the others brought this on yourselves and each of you were culpable for what happened.
I will now withdraw one word of what I wrote about what consists to take a bit of a sentence to try to make it's point regardless of the context
1) > Not you insult me with claims of dishonesty? I merely pointed out that you and the others brought this on yourselves and each of you were culpable for what happened.
I will NOT withdraw one word of what I wrote about what consists to take a bit of a sentence to try to make it's point regardless of the context
instead of this
1) > Not you insult me with claims of dishonesty? I merely pointed out that you and the others brought this on yourselves and each of you were culpable for what happened.
I will now withdraw one word of what I wrote about what consists to take a bit of a sentence to try to make it's point regardless of the context
(i) I did not insult him - show me where
(ii) If he doesnt understand English correctly its not my problem - its his.
(iii) How do u know hes a kid? If he is, well hes got some mature insult in his vocabulary (again, u didnt see them they were edited by CS)
(iv) Mhervais - im definitely on your side - just ignore intellectual dishonnesty.
(ii) If he doesnt understand English correctly its not my problem - its his.
(iii) How do u know hes a kid? If he is, well hes got some mature insult in his vocabulary (again, u didnt see them they were edited by CS)
(iv) Mhervais - im definitely on your side - just ignore intellectual dishonnesty.
mount_diablo,
I think you might have a misguided view of this thread because it was edited by EE and the the foul comments by Notis was removed before you had the chance to see them.
Marc,
you do not have to justify your actions, you did the right thing.
Simonac,
(iv) i agree.
I think you might have a misguided view of this thread because it was edited by EE and the the foul comments by Notis was removed before you had the chance to see them.
Marc,
you do not have to justify your actions, you did the right thing.
Simonac,
(iv) i agree.
Karoo - just in case Diablo doent not receive notif fo rthis thread u shoudl paste yoru comments at:
https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=lounge&qid=11109265
ull see that even if hes the one who started this other thread - hes not getting a lot of support. Thanks.
https://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?ta=lounge&qid=11109265
ull see that even if hes the one who started this other thread - hes not getting a lot of support. Thanks.
Thanks Guys, very helpful support.
Just to tell you how this thing is developing ,I would like to tell you that I received today an email signed by a *so called* greek person (the first name and the name happend to be surnames of the mayor and the president of a greek region) .
My Email was gathered here because I left it by my profile
the mail was containing the same sort of text that he left at EE , agremented with adult content attachment images, and was issued from sometype of an anonymous mailbox (hotmail like).
To be frank, this kind of message doesn not turn my temper out, because I am and adult, and rather open minded.
However I do not apreciate too much to be harassed would it partially be by my fault with an Email I left on a public forum.
Unfortunately for the sender, the Email provider relayed his IP (saying that it could have been forged) and I was able to ping it and I to trace it back.
So I wrote to the mail administrator, and what is probaly the ISP of this person (an american company) to ask them to take the appropriate mesures.
I will keep you informed. and I will post this message in the lounge.
cheers Marc
Just to tell you how this thing is developing ,I would like to tell you that I received today an email signed by a *so called* greek person (the first name and the name happend to be surnames of the mayor and the president of a greek region) .
My Email was gathered here because I left it by my profile
the mail was containing the same sort of text that he left at EE , agremented with adult content attachment images, and was issued from sometype of an anonymous mailbox (hotmail like).
To be frank, this kind of message doesn not turn my temper out, because I am and adult, and rather open minded.
However I do not apreciate too much to be harassed would it partially be by my fault with an Email I left on a public forum.
Unfortunately for the sender, the Email provider relayed his IP (saying that it could have been forged) and I was able to ping it and I to trace it back.
So I wrote to the mail administrator, and what is probaly the ISP of this person (an american company) to ask them to take the appropriate mesures.
I will keep you informed. and I will post this message in the lounge.
cheers Marc
well done - hope u get the sender nailed.
We were not exagerating when we said he was frustrated.
We were not exagerating when we said he was frustrated.
Siton,
I have found myself to be gravely mistaken. I supported the ideal that the tech areas should be free of taunting of each other, and of profanity. While I still stand by some of my statements of taunting in the tech areas, I will have to voice my agreement that you do indeed deserve the punishment awarded by the EE Customer service. You do not belong here. Making violent threats is going way overboard. Obviously you did not read my comment about politely stating your points and letting them know you have a tech question to solve regardless of the points.
I herby withdraw any support I may seem to have given. I regret having become voluntarily entangled.
I have found myself to be gravely mistaken. I supported the ideal that the tech areas should be free of taunting of each other, and of profanity. While I still stand by some of my statements of taunting in the tech areas, I will have to voice my agreement that you do indeed deserve the punishment awarded by the EE Customer service. You do not belong here. Making violent threats is going way overboard. Obviously you did not read my comment about politely stating your points and letting them know you have a tech question to solve regardless of the points.
I herby withdraw any support I may seem to have given. I regret having become voluntarily entangled.
This comment was AGES ago, but I had to pull it out...
notis >> I am not a military gay.I work in a office.
so military people that don't work in offices are all gay?
Thanks notis. I didn't know that.
notis >> I am not a military gay.I work in a office.
so military people that don't work in offices are all gay?
Thanks notis. I didn't know that.
Jaymol,
I assume that all experts here know about yours orientation, so your joke is inappropriate.
I assume that all experts here know about yours orientation, so your joke is inappropriate.
ITugay?
You know how to read? Your hints have no sense, I have a normal Korean name. If you always think about yours orientation, then it is your problems. I even guess what keyword you used for this purpose to find this question. If you have any problems concerning me, I offer to discuss it somewhere in the other place.
I bring the apologies for been of topic. This person is from my black-list.
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Igor.
I bring the apologies for been of topic. This person is from my black-list.
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Igor.
Igor - What specifically is your problem with me?
Jaymol,
You can recall the moment about one year back when I tried to to help you but you simply has offered never to make comments on your questions? It means that you have the very much limited memory.
By the way, I hate light-blue or radical blue mans, it's my problem, but I offered you to continue discussion in other place. Would you like to continue discussioin here? I'm not sure. Seems you know my e-mail.
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Igor.
PS: The situation slightly changed, you can try again to drag me through the court.
You can recall the moment about one year back when I tried to to help you but you simply has offered never to make comments on your questions? It means that you have the very much limited memory.
By the way, I hate light-blue or radical blue mans, it's my problem, but I offered you to continue discussion in other place. Would you like to continue discussioin here? I'm not sure. Seems you know my e-mail.
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Igor.
PS: The situation slightly changed, you can try again to drag me through the court.
What are you talking about Igor? I've never tried to drag anyone through court in my life! And what's this "I hate light-blue or radical blue mans"? I don't even understand that mate.
Whatever it is you think I've done, I assure you that you are wrong.
John.
Whatever it is you think I've done, I assure you that you are wrong.
John.
Jaymol,
you are really short in memoty. I can accept yours "Je m'excuse", but please do not pretend that you don't know about a reason of disagreements. Would you like to call Darin (Qui peut résoudre notre discussion)?
He is remembers exactly what we are talknig about.
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Igor.
PS: Do you remember a reason why you have been limited in access to EE?
you are really short in memoty. I can accept yours "Je m'excuse", but please do not pretend that you don't know about a reason of disagreements. Would you like to call Darin (Qui peut résoudre notre discussion)?
He is remembers exactly what we are talknig about.
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Igor.
PS: Do you remember a reason why you have been limited in access to EE?
Igor, I have not been restricted or limited in my use of EE in the slightest.
You are obviously mistaken about this whole thing.
(BTW, pardon my ignorance, but I do not understand French.)
John.
You are obviously mistaken about this whole thing.
(BTW, pardon my ignorance, but I do not understand French.)
John.
Are you guys sure you're posting to the right place, or have some names been a changin' lately?
This guy's certainly posting to the wrong place. I don't even understand half the stuff I'm supposed to have done!
(Any of it, actually!)
John.
(Any of it, actually!)
John.
mount_diablo:
This man pretends that he does not know subject we are talking about. But he perfectly knows a subject of the talk. He was limited in access to EE about one year ago, and I know the person from EE who was responsibe for that action. So I wouldnt' lke to continue this discussion in this place.
UNSUBSCRIBE!!!
This man pretends that he does not know subject we are talking about. But he perfectly knows a subject of the talk. He was limited in access to EE about one year ago, and I know the person from EE who was responsibe for that action. So I wouldnt' lke to continue this discussion in this place.
UNSUBSCRIBE!!!
Seriously guys, if I did something wrong then how come I'm still here? ITugay, what are you talking about? Stop making false accusations if you are not willing to back them up.
Tell me, no, tell us all, what I am supposed to have done!!!!
Thank you,
John.
Tell me, no, tell us all, what I am supposed to have done!!!!
Thank you,
John.
ITugay,
So is this Notis returned?
I'd rather not unsubscribe to this one, I am just a bit confused that this old Q is being used again by folks (or just their ID's) who were'nt involved in the original lively discussion.
So is this Notis returned?
I'd rather not unsubscribe to this one, I am just a bit confused that this old Q is being used again by folks (or just their ID's) who were'nt involved in the original lively discussion.
I don't think Notis has returned m.d. (I hope you're not suggesting I am he!) ITugay's got a bee in his bonnet about something, but I doubt this will continue as he won't explain himself.
I won't be posting in this question again, myself.
John.
I won't be posting in this question again, myself.
John.
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