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I just reinstalled Windows2000 and I am not able to see other computers on the network, nor they can see me.
I have a small home network of 3 computers, two Windows98 SE and one Windows2000. In my first installation providing the Workgroup and computer name during the installation process was sufficient and I got to my network. Everything was working fine. I have reformatted the HD and installed a clean version of Windows2000, but I just can't get to the network.
All the settings on Windows98 machines, that a workgroup name and a computer name. and those 2 machines can see each other.
I typed ipconfig /all and saw that the IP address was 169.254.197.251
I tried changing it to 192.168.0.1 that didn't work either.
So I try installing Windows ME instead of Windows2000, I do not even get the logon screen unless I type 192.168.0.1 manually into IP address section of the TCP/IP.
I am about to crazy here. It is a simple network and I just can't get to it.
Like I said I have two Windows98 SE machine they can see each other just by providing Workgroup and Computer name to each. I try the samething in Windows ME but it does not work.Please help me with this matter.
Also why would the computer assign 169.254.197.251 IP to itself. It has happened in both Windows2000 and Windows ME.
Thank you...
I have a small home network of 3 computers, two Windows98 SE and one Windows2000. In my first installation providing the Workgroup and computer name during the installation process was sufficient and I got to my network. Everything was working fine. I have reformatted the HD and installed a clean version of Windows2000, but I just can't get to the network.
All the settings on Windows98 machines, that a workgroup name and a computer name. and those 2 machines can see each other.
I typed ipconfig /all and saw that the IP address was 169.254.197.251
I tried changing it to 192.168.0.1 that didn't work either.
So I try installing Windows ME instead of Windows2000, I do not even get the logon screen unless I type 192.168.0.1 manually into IP address section of the TCP/IP.
I am about to crazy here. It is a simple network and I just can't get to it.
Like I said I have two Windows98 SE machine they can see each other just by providing Workgroup and Computer name to each. I try the samething in Windows ME but it does not work.Please help me with this matter.
Also why would the computer assign 169.254.197.251 IP to itself. It has happened in both Windows2000 and Windows ME.
Thank you...
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Actually, the ip you are assigned is burnt into the card, not assigned by os.
eschider the MAC address is burned into the card, not the ip address (ip =internet protocol)
Your ISP assigns you an IP everytime you connect
IP's are for example 192.168.0.1 (private)
and if you type ping from the dos prompt and ping https://www.experts-exchange.com you will get the ip of here (public)
The ip is most definitely assigned either manually or dynamically by the os
Steve
Your ISP assigns you an IP everytime you connect
IP's are for example 192.168.0.1 (private)
and if you type ping from the dos prompt and ping https://www.experts-exchange.com you will get the ip of here (public)
The ip is most definitely assigned either manually or dynamically by the os
Steve
ASKER
Non of the computers on my network has ICS on it. This computer I am having trouble with had ICS running on Windows98 SE. But now, I am installing Windows2000
Also one other thing I have noticed is that when I go to System from Control Panel I see the workgroup name I have assigned, and I see the name of the computer
But name of the computer has a dot at the end of it, and I cannot get rid of it. It is ISTANBUL. instead of ISTANBUL
Also one other thing I have noticed is that when I go to System from Control Panel I see the workgroup name I have assigned, and I see the name of the computer
But name of the computer has a dot at the end of it, and I cannot get rid of it. It is ISTANBUL. instead of ISTANBUL
ASKER
C:\>ipconfig /all
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ISTANBUL
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast Eth
er
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-35-0C-0F
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.38.32
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :
I just do not understand this! When I set it up the fist time, everything worked fine. I did a clean insall over and it is not working now. This is very strange.
It says that Autoconfiguration Enabled: Yes do I have to turn this off?
Please help...I am increasing the points until this is solved.
Thank you...
-Hocam
guess i should rephrase what i was saying. The ip he was assigned 169.x.x.x is burnt into the card. I understand ip very well and i appreciate you correcting my statement. Guess I'll read what I type next time. :>
escheider
escheider
Yes turn off autoconfiguration, and assign the ip as I stated above.turn off dhcp.
click the manually assign radio button and assign the ip of 192.168.0.9
mask 255.255.255.0
go to the network neighborhood, and right click on the local connection and do this
Steve
click the manually assign radio button and assign the ip of 192.168.0.9
mask 255.255.255.0
go to the network neighborhood, and right click on the local connection and do this
Steve
Its trying to obtain an ip address from a dhcp server.
Why not manually assign an ip address?
Why not manually assign an ip address?
ASKER
escheider..do you know how to correct this? I mean this is so simple and it should work, I just do not undertstand why all of a sudden it is not working...
see you have dhcp enabled, and that is why you are getting the 169.254.38.32 address and the 255.255.0.0 mask.
Steve
Steve
That is what I have been saying.
and escheider, no IP address is burned into a card. Ip addresses are used with tcp/ip, and it is not always nesseccary to use tcp/ip. The only address that is burned onto a card is the MAC, assigned by each manufacuturer.
Every windows machine that tries to use dhcp and can not find a dhcp server will assign 169.254.38.32, this is one way to tell if it can find the dhcp server.
and escheider, no IP address is burned into a card. Ip addresses are used with tcp/ip, and it is not always nesseccary to use tcp/ip. The only address that is burned onto a card is the MAC, assigned by each manufacuturer.
Every windows machine that tries to use dhcp and can not find a dhcp server will assign 169.254.38.32, this is one way to tell if it can find the dhcp server.
Well, Steve is giving very good instructions.
You need to disable DHCP and assign your ip address manually, placing it in the same network as your other two machines.
You need to disable DHCP and assign your ip address manually, placing it in the same network as your other two machines.
ASKER
But why wouldn't Windows2000 work like Windows98 SE and log on to a internal network without having to be assigned an IP.
See now what happens is I am connected to network, I also have DSL (another NIC card that connects to my external DSL modem)
I am on the network and connect to internet. I am trying to share the DSL connection, it is telling me that it has the set this computers IP to 192.168.0.1 I hit ok, then it tells me that cannot enable internet connection sharing because the IP is already in use...
Hmmm....Let me take the IP out, try to enable the internet connection sharing...
If you have any other ideas please let me know...
Thanks :))
See now what happens is I am connected to network, I also have DSL (another NIC card that connects to my external DSL modem)
I am on the network and connect to internet. I am trying to share the DSL connection, it is telling me that it has the set this computers IP to 192.168.0.1 I hit ok, then it tells me that cannot enable internet connection sharing because the IP is already in use...
Hmmm....Let me take the IP out, try to enable the internet connection sharing...
If you have any other ideas please let me know...
Thanks :))
OK, here's what i want you to do
machine #1 (the one with the dsl modem)set that internal NIC to
192.168.0.1
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway blank
disable dns
on the second machine
ip 192.168.0.2
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
on the third machine
ip 192.168.0.3
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
it would help to know which machine has the dsl on it
machine #1 (the one with the dsl modem)set that internal NIC to
192.168.0.1
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway blank
disable dns
on the second machine
ip 192.168.0.2
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
on the third machine
ip 192.168.0.3
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
it would help to know which machine has the dsl on it
OK, here's what i want you to do
machine #1 (the one with the dsl modem)set that internal NIC to
192.168.0.1
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway blank
disable dns
on the second machine
ip 192.168.0.2
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
on the third machine
ip 192.168.0.3
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
it would help to know which machine has the dsl on it
machine #1 (the one with the dsl modem)set that internal NIC to
192.168.0.1
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway blank
disable dns
on the second machine
ip 192.168.0.2
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
on the third machine
ip 192.168.0.3
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1
enable dns and use the dns that your ISP gave you
it would help to know which machine has the dsl on it
sorry about the double
Hocam
once you get that all set up we will do some ping tests to see if we have connectivity
once you get that all set up we will do some ping tests to see if we have connectivity
ASKER
OK this can't get easier than this.
I got the Windows2000 to get working but it was wierd and slow, I really didn't feel very comfortable about it. I will try it if I can get windows98 se to work right.
Here is the new scenario.
I have installed Windows98 SE on my machine and as I have guessed it has that wierd 169.254.107.205 ip.
I have disabled DHCP and everything. I only have a wrokgroup name and a computer name. That's all, it should work, it works on the other 2 computers, it worked on this computer before.
What do you think it is? How do I get rid of this 169 IP without having the type 192.168.0.1 manually. Please help.
Do you think my NIC cards have been programmed? It sounds very silly, but my mind cannot handle all this complication. I just want to create a basic home network (which was wroking perfectly before I reinstalled)
Please help..What do you guys think?
Thank you...
-hocam
I got the Windows2000 to get working but it was wierd and slow, I really didn't feel very comfortable about it. I will try it if I can get windows98 se to work right.
Here is the new scenario.
I have installed Windows98 SE on my machine and as I have guessed it has that wierd 169.254.107.205 ip.
I have disabled DHCP and everything. I only have a wrokgroup name and a computer name. That's all, it should work, it works on the other 2 computers, it worked on this computer before.
What do you think it is? How do I get rid of this 169 IP without having the type 192.168.0.1 manually. Please help.
Do you think my NIC cards have been programmed? It sounds very silly, but my mind cannot handle all this complication. I just want to create a basic home network (which was wroking perfectly before I reinstalled)
Please help..What do you guys think?
Thank you...
-hocam
OK,
no the NIC's have not been programmed, that is the ip address that windows gives itself when it can't find a dhcp server. The only way to get a dhcp server in w98se is to set up internet connection sharing on one of the machines
first tell me what the ip addresses are on the other machines, and I will tell you what to set this machine as. Is this the machine withthe dsl?
no the NIC's have not been programmed, that is the ip address that windows gives itself when it can't find a dhcp server. The only way to get a dhcp server in w98se is to set up internet connection sharing on one of the machines
first tell me what the ip addresses are on the other machines, and I will tell you what to set this machine as. Is this the machine withthe dsl?
ASKER
OK this can't get easier than this.
I got the Windows2000 to get working but it was wierd and slow, I really didn't feel very comfortable about it. I will try it if I can get windows98 se to work right.
Here is the new scenario.
I have installed Windows98 SE on my machine and as I have guessed it has that wierd 169.254.107.205 ip.
I have disabled DHCP and everything. I only have a wrokgroup name and a computer name. That's all, it should work, it works on the other 2 computers, it worked on this computer before.
What do you think it is? How do I get rid of this 169 IP without having the type 192.168.0.1 manually. Please help.
Do you think my NIC cards have been programmed? It sounds very silly, but my mind cannot handle all this complication. I just want to create a basic home network (which was wroking perfectly before I reinstalled)
Please help..What do you guys think?
Thank you...
-hocam
I got the Windows2000 to get working but it was wierd and slow, I really didn't feel very comfortable about it. I will try it if I can get windows98 se to work right.
Here is the new scenario.
I have installed Windows98 SE on my machine and as I have guessed it has that wierd 169.254.107.205 ip.
I have disabled DHCP and everything. I only have a wrokgroup name and a computer name. That's all, it should work, it works on the other 2 computers, it worked on this computer before.
What do you think it is? How do I get rid of this 169 IP without having the type 192.168.0.1 manually. Please help.
Do you think my NIC cards have been programmed? It sounds very silly, but my mind cannot handle all this complication. I just want to create a basic home network (which was wroking perfectly before I reinstalled)
Please help..What do you guys think?
Thank you...
-hocam
? did you refresh the question?
ASKER
OK this can't get easier than this.
I got the Windows2000 to get working but it was wierd and slow, I really didn't feel very comfortable about it. I will try it if I can get windows98 se to work right.
Here is the new scenario.
I have installed Windows98 SE on my machine and as I have guessed it has that wierd 169.254.107.205 ip.
I have disabled DHCP and everything. I only have a wrokgroup name and a computer name. That's all, it should work, it works on the other 2 computers, it worked on this computer before.
What do you think it is? How do I get rid of this 169 IP without having the type 192.168.0.1 manually. Please help.
Do you think my NIC cards have been programmed? It sounds very silly, but my mind cannot handle all this complication. I just want to create a basic home network (which was wroking perfectly before I reinstalled)
Please help..What do you guys think?
Thank you...
-hocam
I got the Windows2000 to get working but it was wierd and slow, I really didn't feel very comfortable about it. I will try it if I can get windows98 se to work right.
Here is the new scenario.
I have installed Windows98 SE on my machine and as I have guessed it has that wierd 169.254.107.205 ip.
I have disabled DHCP and everything. I only have a wrokgroup name and a computer name. That's all, it should work, it works on the other 2 computers, it worked on this computer before.
What do you think it is? How do I get rid of this 169 IP without having the type 192.168.0.1 manually. Please help.
Do you think my NIC cards have been programmed? It sounds very silly, but my mind cannot handle all this complication. I just want to create a basic home network (which was wroking perfectly before I reinstalled)
Please help..What do you guys think?
Thank you...
-hocam
ASKER
Whoops I am very sorry about the refreshings...what da?
Sorry again. I simple want to forget about the DSL right now. I just want to setup a simple network without having to enter any information other then workgroup and computer name, I just winipcfg on one of the computers and I hto 192.168.0.3, and 192.168.0.2 on the other one.
They usually get those IPs...
I just want all 3 computers to see each other fine.
Sorry again. I simple want to forget about the DSL right now. I just want to setup a simple network without having to enter any information other then workgroup and computer name, I just winipcfg on one of the computers and I hto 192.168.0.3, and 192.168.0.2 on the other one.
They usually get those IPs...
I just want all 3 computers to see each other fine.
OK, then on the machine that you just set up, give it the static address of 192.168.0.1
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway blank
install netbeui on all three machines, and file and printer sharing
share at least one folder on each machine, and you are done
The reason I ask about the dsl is that is the machine that needs to have the 192.168.0.1 address so we can set up ICS and get everything happening for you
the one with ICS needs to have a static ip
the others got it from the dhcp server, and will keep them until the lease runs out
Steve
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway blank
install netbeui on all three machines, and file and printer sharing
share at least one folder on each machine, and you are done
The reason I ask about the dsl is that is the machine that needs to have the 192.168.0.1 address so we can set up ICS and get everything happening for you
the one with ICS needs to have a static ip
the others got it from the dhcp server, and will keep them until the lease runs out
Steve
It's not neccessary to increase the points. I'll stay with you until you go to bed, or we get it working. and we are almost there now
ASKER
Thank you...I know it should work if I enter the IP of 192.168.0.1, what I am asking is why do I have to enter it, i didn't enter it on the other machines?
Let me enter those IPs and get back to you...
Let me enter those IPs and get back to you...
It is because the other machines got the ip addresses from the dhcp server that was on your machine when you had ICS setup. but when you formatted and reloaded, the dhcp server is gone untill you add ICS back. but you have to add it to the machine that will be the dhcp server (the one with the dsl). DCHP can't assign itself an address
ASKER
Hi I see the other computer, but why is it so slow?
Why I need to install NETBUI?
Why I need to install NETBUI?
NETBEUI is a small, fast non routable protocol for small microsft networks. It will make things faster for you, especially in network neighborhood
ASKER
Hmmm...I am still thinking something wrong with the network cards.
Because I have never need the NetBEUI before...NetBEUI is not very secure either. Because everything makes sense, but this one machine...and I got Windows2000 to work and share internet perfectly ones before (2 days ago) just for the curiosity I tried reinstalling and it didn't work. I didn't do anything different...
I guess I am going to go to work now and get some NIC cards and try it tonight see if it makes any difference.
I will let you know as soon as I get it working. Thanks for your work, and please don't miss any sleep, just hope that you can hear the good news in the morning...
Back to work now...
Because I have never need the NetBEUI before...NetBEUI is not very secure either. Because everything makes sense, but this one machine...and I got Windows2000 to work and share internet perfectly ones before (2 days ago) just for the curiosity I tried reinstalling and it didn't work. I didn't do anything different...
I guess I am going to go to work now and get some NIC cards and try it tonight see if it makes any difference.
I will let you know as soon as I get it working. Thanks for your work, and please don't miss any sleep, just hope that you can hear the good news in the morning...
Back to work now...
As far as netbeui not being secure, yes to a point, but after you add it, then you remove it from the adapter that is connected to the dsl, and you then close port 137 (the netbeui port) and you are secure
Have a good nite at work, and hopefully there will be joy tomorrow
Steve
Have a good nite at work, and hopefully there will be joy tomorrow
Steve
Hocam, just some more info. The reason you didn't have to set up the IP before is you set up ICS, which did it for you.When you set up ICS it automatically makes the IP of the home machine 192.168.0.1, and sets up a DHCP server (dynamic host configuration protocol).The other machines, (because you used the client set up disk, or told them to obtain an IP automaticaly) sent out broadcasts that the ICS machine answered and assigned them ip addresses
ASKER
Everything seems to be working fine now. I am going to try to do the samething in WindowsME, lets see if I can.
I really appreciate your help...
Thank you very much...
I really appreciate your help...
Thank you very much...
Glad I could help
Steve
Steve
ASKER
OK, I am able to see all the computers on Windows98 SE, but Internet Connection Sharing does not seem to work...
Any ideas?
Thanks...
Any ideas?
Thanks...
You set it up on the machine, now go to IE, tools, internet options, make sure the connection is highlighted, and click sharing, and check share box
Steve
Steve
ASKER
I am on Windows98 SE under internet tools I have Sharing... button, I click and select my LAN as the home network (adapter #1) and adapters #2 as the connection to be shared.
I just did a winconfig and I have 2 PPP adapters one PCI BUS Adapter and one ICS Adapter.
PCI BUS is my Linksys no #1 with 192.168..0.1 and ICS had the IP of 169.254.107.205
Anything else I should do?
Thx
I just did a winconfig and I have 2 PPP adapters one PCI BUS Adapter and one ICS Adapter.
PCI BUS is my Linksys no #1 with 192.168..0.1 and ICS had the IP of 169.254.107.205
Anything else I should do?
Thx
ASKER
I am sorry ICS has the IP of 169.254.200.181
Go to the other machines, and see if they are set to recieve ip address automatically. The ics will have that for now, that one will be assigned by your isp
ASKER
I do not think my ISP gave me that IP, i ping it no replies....
Other computers are just fine...I think I am just going to reinstall my NIC cards...
Ughhh...I am really frasturated...
Other computers are just fine...I think I am just going to reinstall my NIC cards...
Ughhh...I am really frasturated...
first see here
www.pratcicallynetworked.com and see if it helps
also come back here and give me all the winipcfg for the adapters on the ICS machine. Can this machine connect and surf?
also from the other machines try pinging
208.50.148.12
and let me know
www.pratcicallynetworked.com and see if it helps
also come back here and give me all the winipcfg for the adapters on the ICS machine. Can this machine connect and surf?
also from the other machines try pinging
208.50.148.12
and let me know
I'm sure the NIC's are OK
ASKER
OK here is the latest news. I have uninstalled my DSL connection and and pointed Connection to be shared to my Dial-Up access. I am on 56K right now.
All other computers are able to get to it.
If I change the settings to share the Linksys connection it won't work..
Let me check the URL out...
All other computers are able to get to it.
If I change the settings to share the Linksys connection it won't work..
Let me check the URL out...
OK, so far so good, now you know the NIC's are working and you have connectivity
ASKER
Yep, this is very strange. If I share my modem, everybody can surf the net, but not my DSL...
God help me!
God help me!
Did the link I provided help?
A question, can the dsl surf by itself?
BTW Hocam, we will get this thing working for you
Steve
Steve
Many ISPs use Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) to assign a unique IP address to your computer's NIC or Network Adapter. They also sometimes bind (or lock) your connection to the MAC address that is hard-coded into the NIC that was present when they installed your service. Each time you boot your computer or power cycle your cable modem, the modem locks onto the first MAC it finds.
Did you change the NIC for the dsl modem?
Did you change the NIC for the dsl modem?
In general, don't change the settings for the NIC that is connected to your cable modem. You should only have to touch the settings for the second NIC, i.e. the one connected to your LAN.
I'm finding stuff for you :~)
After you configure the Network software and set the IP addresses, use the ping command on the Sharing Computer to make sure all of the computers are "alive" (at least in the TCP/IP sense).
If the above "pinged" ok, next you should ping your cable modem NIC IP. This is the second network that connects to your soon-to-be shared computer, and is a subnet of your cable provider.
Type ping [yourISPIP] where [yourISPIP] is the IP address temporarily assigned to you by your ISP. You should get the proper "Reply from..." response.
If you don't know your cable modem NIC IP address, use the winipcfg command to find out. An example winipcfg screen is shown below (you'll have to click on the "More Info" button on the opening Control Panel to get this view). Your temporary IP address is next to IP Address in the Ethernet Adapter Information section.
and herhttp://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/trblshot.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icsinstall.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icstour.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/ics_avoid_98se_reinstall.htm, but since it's working with the 56 K this shouldn't be needed
Steve
I'm finding stuff for you :~)
After you configure the Network software and set the IP addresses, use the ping command on the Sharing Computer to make sure all of the computers are "alive" (at least in the TCP/IP sense).
If the above "pinged" ok, next you should ping your cable modem NIC IP. This is the second network that connects to your soon-to-be shared computer, and is a subnet of your cable provider.
Type ping [yourISPIP] where [yourISPIP] is the IP address temporarily assigned to you by your ISP. You should get the proper "Reply from..." response.
If you don't know your cable modem NIC IP address, use the winipcfg command to find out. An example winipcfg screen is shown below (you'll have to click on the "More Info" button on the opening Control Panel to get this view). Your temporary IP address is next to IP Address in the Ethernet Adapter Information section.
and herhttp://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/trblshot.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icsinstall.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icstour.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/ics_avoid_98se_reinstall.htm, but since it's working with the 56 K this shouldn't be needed
Steve
ASKER
I did change the NIC for the DSL modem but with the NICs I have right now, was able to share the connection in Windows2000, I cannot with Windows98SE with the same sets of hardware.
Yes, I am able to surf the net with DSL on my machine.
One question is that, on my first NIC (LAN nic), why the "use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is grayed out?
Do you think this might be the problem?
Yes, I am able to surf the net with DSL on my machine.
One question is that, on my first NIC (LAN nic), why the "use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is grayed out?
Do you think this might be the problem?
ASKER
Here are some questions:
1) What is the reason that a computer can only see itself but can't see other computers in Network Neighborhood eventhough it pings other computers fine. And the computers on network can access this machine?
2) Also what is the reason that a machine can see all the machines on the network except itself?
Thanks...
1) What is the reason that a computer can only see itself but can't see other computers in Network Neighborhood eventhough it pings other computers fine. And the computers on network can access this machine?
2) Also what is the reason that a machine can see all the machines on the network except itself?
Thanks...
ASKER
One other thing...
Is there any possibilities that the 2 questions above is solved if the computer with 192.168.0.1 is on?
Gosh, it was about 6 days ago, my computer was running fine and sharing the internet with other computers on the network. Now its a mess, sometimes computers really get to my nerves...eventhough I know that I am still doing something wrong (I hope)
Well, anyway I am still going to try to solve this.
Is there any possibilities that the 2 questions above is solved if the computer with 192.168.0.1 is on?
Gosh, it was about 6 days ago, my computer was running fine and sharing the internet with other computers on the network. Now its a mess, sometimes computers really get to my nerves...eventhough I know that I am still doing something wrong (I hope)
Well, anyway I am still going to try to solve this.
ASKER
Hey thank you for the links you've sent me...I think my answer might be in there.
Because there are couple of things I have not tried.
Let me see...I am getting close though...
Hey also while you're helping me with this, in Windows2000 when I install a program, depending on the program type the 'Start Menu' items of the file either goes under "All Users" or under my account "Serkan"
For example if I install MS Office it goes under all users but ICQ goes under serkan
I know that ICQ is user specific, but can I make it so everythin goes under my account or all users?
I disabled "Use personalized menus" option.
Note: I can see both ICQ and MS Office, but I do not feel comfortable knowing them located in different accounts Start Menu.
Thanks...
Because there are couple of things I have not tried.
Let me see...I am getting close though...
Hey also while you're helping me with this, in Windows2000 when I install a program, depending on the program type the 'Start Menu' items of the file either goes under "All Users" or under my account "Serkan"
For example if I install MS Office it goes under all users but ICQ goes under serkan
I know that ICQ is user specific, but can I make it so everythin goes under my account or all users?
I disabled "Use personalized menus" option.
Note: I can see both ICQ and MS Office, but I do not feel comfortable knowing them located in different accounts Start Menu.
Thanks...
One question is that, on my first NIC (LAN nic), why the "use DHCP for WINS Resolution" is grayed out?
no, it is greyed out because you have statically assigned the ip address
) What is the reason that a computer can only see itself but can't see other computers in Network Neighborhood eventhough it pings other computers fine. And the computers on network can access this machine?
2) Also what is the reason that a machine can see all the machines on the network except itself?
netbeui will solve this
Is there any possibilities that the 2 questions above is solved if the computer with 192.168.0.1 is on?
yes, have all the machines on
For example if I install MS Office it goes under all users but ICQ goes under serkan
Did you install ICQ logged on as serkan? and Office as Administrator?
Also ICQ is a user specific program. I have never installed ICQ on a w2000 machine
no, it is greyed out because you have statically assigned the ip address
) What is the reason that a computer can only see itself but can't see other computers in Network Neighborhood eventhough it pings other computers fine. And the computers on network can access this machine?
2) Also what is the reason that a machine can see all the machines on the network except itself?
netbeui will solve this
Is there any possibilities that the 2 questions above is solved if the computer with 192.168.0.1 is on?
yes, have all the machines on
For example if I install MS Office it goes under all users but ICQ goes under serkan
Did you install ICQ logged on as serkan? and Office as Administrator?
Also ICQ is a user specific program. I have never installed ICQ on a w2000 machine
ASKER
OK, Steven. I understood all these TCP/IP relationship. My computers see each other perfectly now without any problem.
What I have done is, I turned off all the computers, reinstalled windows98 se on my machine and the NIC cards. Then I installed ICS, ICS automatically configured one of my NICs to this static IP and other computers seem to like it.
Only problem is while installing ICS, ICS skips a session of the configuration process. On the page below look at the second picture, where it asks wheter I use Dial-Up or ADSL. I never get that.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icsinstall.htm
You think this might be the problem?
What I have done is, I turned off all the computers, reinstalled windows98 se on my machine and the NIC cards. Then I installed ICS, ICS automatically configured one of my NICs to this static IP and other computers seem to like it.
Only problem is while installing ICS, ICS skips a session of the configuration process. On the page below look at the second picture, where it asks wheter I use Dial-Up or ADSL. I never get that.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icsinstall.htm
You think this might be the problem?
ASKER
Also one other thing, when I do winipcfg I get that 169 IP on my ICS Adapter.
Only problem is while installing ICS, ICS skips a session of the configuration process. On the page below look at the second picture, where it asks wheter I use Dial-Up or ADSL. I never get that.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icsinstall.htm
definitally
see here
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q263/2/76.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=manually%20remove%20internet%20connection%20sharing&rnk=1&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=W98SE
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/icsinstall.htm
definitally
see here
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q263/2/76.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=manually%20remove%20internet%20connection%20sharing&rnk=1&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=W98SE
ASKER
Hmmm....I tried everything that is on MS site. Still no luck.
It just does not make any sense to me. It worked about a week, but it won't work now. It must be from the weather :P
The only thing that comes to my mind is that I changed the NIC card, but its should not matter, these same sets of cards I used on Windows2000 and it worked.
So, what it comes to is purchasing a router. Any suggestions? Any pros/cons?
Thanks for all your help...
It just does not make any sense to me. It worked about a week, but it won't work now. It must be from the weather :P
The only thing that comes to my mind is that I changed the NIC card, but its should not matter, these same sets of cards I used on Windows2000 and it worked.
So, what it comes to is purchasing a router. Any suggestions? Any pros/cons?
Thanks for all your help...
ASKER
Since I have a hub I am thinking I can get a one port router (would be cheaper)
What do you think about this?
http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=142&grid=5
What do you think about this?
http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=142&grid=5
before trying anything
go to IE-->tools-->internet options-->connections-->sh
go to IE-->tools-->internet options-->connections-->sh
Hocam, I don't know if you are using PPPoE, but if you are see this page (it has a lot of links for you to check out also)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/pppoe_nat.htm
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/pppoe_nat.htm
ASKER
Yes, I am using BellAtlantic Infospeed DSL and WinPOET.
See what I do not understand is, I have not done any additional configuration before about ICS. Why all of a sudden I have to do these?
Man, this is incredible.
Well, let me check it out. Even though, I have already ordered Linksys Router. I have a week until that arrives, so I will mess with this.
See what I do not understand is, I have not done any additional configuration before about ICS. Why all of a sudden I have to do these?
Man, this is incredible.
Well, let me check it out. Even though, I have already ordered Linksys Router. I have a week until that arrives, so I will mess with this.
ASKER
IT WORKS!!!!
FINALLYY!!!!!
Now I am going to try to get it working in WindowsME....
wish me luck....
:))
FINALLYY!!!!!
Now I am going to try to get it working in WindowsME....
wish me luck....
:))
Great job !!!!
:~)
Steve
:~)
Steve