why is win2k so big?

After a fresh install of win2k, the properties of c: drive says that 1 gig of space is in used.  I'm wondering why is it that big.  Any unnecessary files I can delete? like for example, in WinME, I can savely delete PCHelth folder and etc.  Can I also delete the 1386 cache drivers folder? and when the system asks for that folder I just put in the win2k cd? Thanks.  Please feel free to give me advice on how to optimize my system under win2k. I'm new to win2k as you can see.
cooljam23Asked:
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kahleanConnect With a Mentor Commented:
ntfs is mend for large capacity hard disk whereby fat32 is for smaller capacity. NTFS offer better security as well. So that why ntfs is used by server in win nt as well win2000.
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kahleanCommented:
as you might aware that win2k is mend for profsional use hence alot of feature which is not included in me is availabel in win 2k. For instance win 2k has all the  network support and not to mention the drivers file. I suggest that you stick to the installation as this is bestfor your system
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DRRYAN3Commented:
You missed the memos between MS and Intel that code bloat sells more hardware?
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HousenetCommented:
-didnt they say something like nt4=2million lines of code....2000 12million... ?
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DRRYAN3Commented:
Ah, but how much of that code actually does something?  
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embCommented:
The main reasons that the install footprint is so large are:

a) Swap file - as memory sizes grow, the default swap file size grows too, to the point that it often takes a significant chunk of your system disk.  Usually c:\pagefile.sys (mine is 766MB!!)

b) DLLCache folder - backup copies of critical system files in system32\dllcache can account for over 200MB of disk space.  If you don't want to make use of Windows File Protection, these can be safely deleted.

c) Windows 2000's all or nothing install policy.  Not much you can do about this - there are only a few things you can choose not to install.

emb
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HousenetCommented:
cooljam23 one thing is for sure in my mind.. When I think back to my first XT 4.5 Mhz computer running DOS 3.0 & think about how I went through every model of PC & M$ OS... Used win95,98,ME,&NT4 for min 1 year each & NT4 several years...I can tell you 2000 is by far ,light years ahead in terms of stability & options. In my opinion it is the absolute best product M$ has ever released.
-So I figure, who cares if its 1 gig...It runs amazingly well..
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CrazyOneCommented:
I am in agreement with Housenet. I have used DOS and all version of Windows except ME (and a couple of versions of linux) and 2000 smokes them all. It is not bloatware as some might have you think. Almost all the stuff in Win 2000 is there for a very good reason and tinkering with trying to free up disk space by eliminating files from the WINNT directory could prove disastrous. Somewhere down the line you will be glad that these features are there.

If you really want a streamlined OS right out of the BOX then consider BeOS. Definitely not as powerful as Win 2000 but its foot print is smaller.


The Crazy One
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steinmtoCommented:
In internet explorer you can set the size of you temp internet files to a smaller size.  If you have dsl or cable you would not notice this much.

Run disk cleanup.

Look for temp folders made by app installs and delete them if they are not in use.

If you have a spare hard drive and space in your pc you could put a second drive in a put your pagefile on it.
The size needed for the hard drive would depend on the amount of ram in your pc.

Hope this helps
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SyrilCommented:
cooljam23,

  MS release an article that exactly addresses your questions.  You may view it here....
<http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q255/7/71.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=map&rnk=60&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=WIN2000>
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cooljam23Author Commented:
Thanks all.  Syril I like your suggestion.  I will go ahead with the installation and see the results and I will give you the point.
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cooljam23Author Commented:
Can winME access NTFS?
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kahleanCommented:
therei s no where that win me can access ntfs. But it can be the other way round that win 2000 access fat32.
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cooljam23Author Commented:
Ok heres the update. I went and install win2k with syril's link and it was no success.  I still get bunch of junks in Win2k.  I also tried to delete netmeeting and the other useless stuff and it all came back by itself.  I really like win2k but I can stay on the internet for long.  Usually it will disconnect me within 5 mins time.  Any ideas to all of these problems?  Thanks
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kahleanCommented:
did you update your internet explorer to a newer version afoter you instasl win2k.
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cooljam23Author Commented:
Yes from 5.0 to 5.5
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cooljam23Author Commented:
Yes from 5.0 to 5.5
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cooljam23Author Commented:
Yes from 5.0 to 5.5
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DRRYAN3Commented:
QEMM/368, Windows 3.1 and Trumpet Winsock with Spyglass and a SLIP account from your local ISP?  Or just accept the fact that 2 GB of your hard disk belongs to Bill Gates.

(Just joking about the first part above - I think)
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DRRYAN3Commented:
oops - QEMM/386
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cooljam23Author Commented:
which is better between NTFS and FAT32? and how much difference they perform between those 2
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DRRYAN3Commented:
Why don't you close this question and open another about NTFS and FAT32?  That is really not related to your original question.
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cooljam23Author Commented:
to be honest I'd love to close this question because none of the suggestions provided me any help.  Kahlean has been here with me all the time and has given me some useful info.  I'm gonna give the points to kahlean
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