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Movie CDs cannot be copied to HDD

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Hi,

Of late some of the movie Cds do not get copied to the HDD. the coping fails at the last second of the movie *.dat file.

Also these movies cannot be watched in Windows Media player. however works in some other VCD player software.

Any way to get around this problem?

Rodney
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Kyle Schroeder earned 50 total points
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Try IsoBuster (www.isobuster.com).  It will extract the movies, and convert them to real MPEG-1 video at the same time (which is basically what a VCD is, but not quite).  What version of Media Player are you using?  6.4 has always worked for me to open them, if you do a File/Open, then "show all files" then browse to the MPEGAV dir on the CD (or whatever one its in).  I've never had a problem copying the .dat to my harddrive though...maybe a dumb question, but do you have ~750MB free to hold the whole thing??

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by:david_cmk
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Does your CD got any physical damage such as scratches? If not, then it must a software conflict. Windows Media Player (WMP)seems does not really support move CD mostly in .dat extension. Sometimes, I also feel the same when I use WMP to play my VCD CD. If you really want to use WMP, here are the ways:

Launch WMP.
Cltr + O.
Browse into your CDROM/DVDROM Drive.
In the files of type, scroll down until you get the option: All files (*.*).
Select the .dat file you want and click open.

Sometimes, WMP will be annoying. There are other software that can play VCD smoothly such as Xing MPEG Player or PowerDVD Player (usually bundled with ASUS Product). Try your luck on these softwares.
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by:vikky999
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yeah it is always a problem. mostly due to scratches on the vcd. unforunately since vcds are common only in asia and unheard of in europe/america nobody really knows what to do about it. whenever the scratch appears unlike a vcd player which simply skips over it . the cdrom drive tries its best to apply error correction and often hangs the comp. the best way is to copy the file to the hard disk in dos mode. so that till the point of copy before the scratch or error the fragment of the copy is stored on the hard disk unlike windows which discards half copied files even if you managed to reach 99% copy and then got the error. also try to use snipit and vcdcutter software. if that also doesnt work. ask me ..ill give you a sure fire workaround however which takes a little effort.

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by:vikky999
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yeah and also download xing mpeg player. if xing cant play it ..then pretty much forget it and get yourself a vcd player. a vcd that absolutely wont work in your cdrom might work perfectly in the same modem cd player that your friend purchased with you simultaneously !!!...weird..but thats my experience. xing is the best. try it out
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by:rodney_alm
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look my main problem is i want to copy the file to the harddisk.

Now the CD's have no scratches. It exits at 99.9%. it cannot read the ending. not the middle or anyway else.

rodney
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by:Kyle Schroeder
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rodney_alm:
Did you try IsoBuster as I suggested?  It should be able to extract the .dat file to the harddrive.  I do not think you can technically copy the whole CD to the harddrive (what would be the point anyway?) Are you trying to back-up the actual VCD structure so you can re-burn to a CD at a later time in case your existing file gets corrupted? If so, try WinImage (http://www.winimage.com/winimage.htm).  It will extract the disc and compress the file at the same time!

Maybe your CD-ROM is bad...did you try it in a CD-R(W) drive?  They will sometimes perform better in reading VCD format CDs.

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by:vikky999
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ok ill tell you one way..firstly if it exits at 99% thats fine. however when you play the movie directly from the cd ..does it play at all ?? it should considering 99% of it seems to be fine. if it does play from the cd but only problem is that you are unable to copy the damn file. then you can use utilities like gozilla and getright to get and save partial files (ofcourse 99% really aint much of a partial !!! pretty much as total as it gets) however since your computer is basically not a http server. both gozilla and getright wont just simply work if you add the cd dat file to download. you can download a simple http server..say netbus pro server (heh..be careful to uninstall it immediately afterwards and dont be online while trying out this stunt) otherwise other people can access your computer which acts as a http server now. once the netbus pro server is installed and also gozilla is installed just open up internet explorer and type
http://localhost
internet explorer will then show you the contents of all your drives..click on the cdrom  drive..click on mpegav folder and then click on the .dat movie file. gozilla should automatically start up and start copying the file till 99% after which it will give and error and stop however the 99% of the file will be saved in the download directory with a weird name. just rename it to movie.dat or whatever...and voila !! you have your file.

heh..sorry its a weirdass procedure but i couldnt find even one single software on the net allows you to retain partial files after encountering any error. ofcourse you could also use vcdcutter software..download it from www.zdnet.com and cut your movie file just a few scenes before the error occurs..ie before 99% and save the clip to the harddisk. if you want further information you can mail me at vikky999@hotmail.com
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by:Kyle Schroeder
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vikky999:
Please read the guidelines concerning comments and answers at the bottom of the page.  In general (in this EE Topic Area at least), posting your suggestion as an answer is discouraged unless you are 400% positive that it is the only correct answer to the questioner's question, and even then most Expert's here would likely post a comment anyway since the question asker can accept the comment as an answer.  I'm not trying to get on your case, or give you a hard time, I'm just explaining the etiquette of EE.  Welcome to Expert's Exchange!

rodney_alm:
Please reject vikky999's proposed answer unless it resolves your problem...It seems to me that using GetRight wouldn't accomplish your goal since the problem you're having is copying the files in the first place, so there is a problem reading the file, which no amount of recopying is going to fix.  My suggestion of using IsoBuster may work since it is able to bypass Window's CD reading process and uses its own method.  If you're just trying to copy the music1.dat (or whatever the large file is that is the actual movie), IsoBuster will do it, and you'll probably end up with a smaller file as well (if you use the right-click option of "Extract only MPEG-1 frames").   You could also try CDRWIN if you are in fact trying to back up the VCD, it will let you make an image file of the disc (though there are only a few programs that will re-burn the .bin/.cue format it produces)

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by:rodney_alm
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Give me some time. I will be busy today but i will get to it tomorrow
rodney
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by:vikky999
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hmm...sorry boss but the thing is i dont even know which is a comment and which is an answer. must have clicked one of the two by mistake. just trying to help..sorry
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by:Kyle Schroeder
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Its fine to help, (its the whole purpose of the site!), I just wanted to let you know how Experts in this EE Topic Area generally work with questions.  Comment should be the default selection.  My apologies if my previous message came off a bit harsh, it wasn't my intent.

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Hey sorry for the delay.

Isobuster is a real cool program.

Best of all it works!!!

Thanks

Rodney
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