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A suggestions for the C++ topic area.

Posted on 2001-06-18
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It seems like 90% of the questions in here aren't really C++ questions - rather they are Windows, Visual Studio or MFC questions.

Given there are dedicated topics for those topics I was thinking it would be good if we could get an overt notice to try and rectify the problem. Something like the following displayed in RED before a poster asks a question...

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This topic is for general C++ questions, if you have a Windows or MFC question consider posting it in the Windows/MFC groups instead.

Also if posting a platform specific question, be sure to specify an operating system.



Any thoughts folks?

Rob
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I'm sorry, but I don't like this idea.
One of the reasons I like using EE, is because we don't have a whole bunch of topic police pushing users away.

If I have a question on how to do something in Windows via C++, I don't want to talk to some general windows programmer.  I want to talke to a C++ windows programmer.

I have had a veiw Unix questions, and everytime I asked the question, I have posted the question in the Unix topic area, and then posted a link to that question in the C++ topic area.
Will guess what.  All my questions have been answered by a C++ expert.  I could have save myself sometime, and just posted the question here.

Questions that have nothing what so ever to do with C++, could and should be redirected to the correct topic area.
But if the questioner is trying to do something in C++ that has nothing to do with the ANSI C++ standard, that should be NO reason to redirect or reject there question.

Please, no topic police here.
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by:jkr
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It's a dilemma, but probably you're both right...

One particular point for robpitt's argument are the MFC issues, they sould better be addressed to the MFC TA. But e.g. what about ATL?
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by:Axter
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>>sould better be addressed to the MFC
I agree, because MFC programmers are c++ programmers.  Also C topic questions I would also agree that it would be appropriate to redirect the questioner.
There might be a few other topics that I haven't thought of that might be appropriate to redirect a questioner.

But OS specific questions should not be a reason to redirect.

One of the reasons I stop participating in the Newsgroup is because they have a whole bunch of topic police.  Some of these topic police spend more time rudely redirecting questioners, and less time actually discussing programming issues.

When a questioner ask an MFC or C question, if I know the answer, I will post the answer, and then also advise the questioner about posting the question in a better topic area.
If I don?t know the answer, then I redirect them to a more appropriate topic area.
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by:jasonclarke
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Another reason for not redirecting stuff is that some groups have far more traffic than others.  So, maybe some C or other related questions are sometimes better off here because they are more likely to attract the attention of somebody who knows the answer.
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by:robpitt
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I wasn't thinking of having an enforced policy, just making a polite suggestion.

(Oh and I certainly didn't mean that this group should be only for pure C++ questions.)

If nothing else it would nice if questioners posted all relevant information rather than the brief one liners.

Many questions spend their first day in a "handshake" exchange whilst we discover all the relevant information - this is often avoidable.

Rob
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by:MDarling
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How about this ...

when you ask a question you could specify the main topic area and then select a further topic area as relevant.

The question would be posted in both topic areas but only exist in one place.  The second topic area would have kind of like a symbolic link (unix) or a shortcut (windows).

The points would be awarded in the main topic area class.

Bit of work for the EE team there :)

What do you guys think?

Regards,
Mike.


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by:lexxwern
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MDarling's suggestion is perhaps the best.
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by:Axter
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>>MDarling's suggestion is perhaps the best.
This is what many questioners do already.
It's not really something new.
And many experts already give questioners suggestions to do this.
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by:MDarling
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Yes, but at the moment its manual and you have to view the link question and then click on the link posted in the question.

You also have 2 questions in existence instead of only the one that is needed.

Just a suggestion - a way of tidying up the existing question and link to question system we use.

Regards,
Mike.
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by:Axter
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MDarling,
Are you suggesting to change the way EE website software works?

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by:MDarling
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Yes.

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by:Axter
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>>Yes.
That's out of the scope of this topic or question.

It maybe a good idea, but we dont' have control of that.

You can post suggestions at the "Community Support" topic area.

Hmmm, this comment kind of sounds relevent to the question. :-)
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by:Axter
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robpitt,
Is there a reason why you have awarded me this zero point question with a B grade!
Thanks, but no thanks!
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by:ComTech
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robpitt, in the future please ask this type of questions in the Lounge or in Community Support.  If specific to the Topic Area, contact the moderator for this group.

Are at least NOTE it thd question box THIS A 0 POINT QUESTION.

Thank you,
ComTech
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by:robpitt
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Sorry Axter, the 0 pts / grade B was not meant to reflect on your yourself. I just wanted to make the question go away, and hence pressed "accept" on the first respondant. (Okay maybe I should have pressed delete).


ComTech, I can understand your argument for wanting this to be discussed in your Lounge/CS area *but* I was seeking feedback from people from this topic area - many of whom don't read the lounge/CS area).

Anyway its a dead issue now since nobody else really seems bothered about it.


Rob
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