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Benefits/Drawbacks to Upgrading from Intra-Netware 4.11 to 5
My understanding is that Novell is a prefered system to NT for our wan use.
My question is; should we upgrade to Novell 5 from 4 to eliminate the concern/limitations with protocols IP and IPX? If we upgrade what other enhancements would we beneift from? What is the cost of the upgrade version (we have full license rights for our current usage 25, 10 and 10). What drawbacks are there to going to version 5?
My question is; should we upgrade to Novell 5 from 4 to eliminate the concern/limitations with protocols IP and IPX? If we upgrade what other enhancements would we beneift from? What is the cost of the upgrade version (we have full license rights for our current usage 25, 10 and 10). What drawbacks are there to going to version 5?
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Dont forgett to mention the DNS and DHCP services that has done a major upgrade since 4.x (and they are quite important in an IP-enviorment)
HOWEVER (and I hate being the bearer of bad news) - IF your hardware is Compaq (about a year or two old) you COULD run into problems during installation. THERE ARE PATCHES available from Novell that will fix the installation problems.
I just wanted to let you know before you ran into the installation problem and started cursing Novell for it when it's a Compaq issue.
Other than that - servers that used to have problems running NetWare 4.11/4.2 have been rock-solid with NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 2a installed.
I just wanted to let you know before you ran into the installation problem and started cursing Novell for it when it's a Compaq issue.
Other than that - servers that used to have problems running NetWare 4.11/4.2 have been rock-solid with NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 2a installed.
DSPoole:
What problem whith wich hardware have you bumped into?
I am in the state to upgrade a number of compaq servers in a short time.
I have done some, and so far no problem, but I am not finnished.
It would be great to know the problem before they show up!
What problem whith wich hardware have you bumped into?
I am in the state to upgrade a number of compaq servers in a short time.
I have done some, and so far no problem, but I am not finnished.
It would be great to know the problem before they show up!
sverre,
Compaq ProLiant/ProSignia systems using a Pentium Pro, Pentium II or Pentium III processor - specifically:
Compaq ProLiant 1600, 2500, 3000, ML330
Compaq ProSignia 200
Basically, the Java GUI starts up but cannot start GUI installation portion of the NetWare installation.
There are patches that you need to apply first - by placing them in the C:\NWUPDATE folder prior to NetWare 5.1 installation - one of the patches gets the general installation functional and another get's the Java GUI installation functional.
After that - there are several post-SP2a patches (DS7.51a and Timesync for PIII processors) that need to be applied.
Compaq blames it on Novell saying their code won't work on "older" Compaq equipment like I mentioned above (gee, I didn't think the ML330 PIII-633MHz system was that "old") but I have gotten NetWare 5.1 to install on several Dell PowerEdge models (Pentium Pro, PII and PIII systems) plus every clone I've ever thrown at it and a HP NetServer LH (60MHz Pentium upgraded to 90MHz) - something that according to HP wasn't possible to do...
Check out Novell's Download section for NetWare 5.1 - the files are there - or you can search the knowledgebase with "C:\NWUPDATE" - that should locate them. If I have time tomorrow I will try to come back and post the exact file names on Novell's web site.
Compaq ProLiant/ProSignia systems using a Pentium Pro, Pentium II or Pentium III processor - specifically:
Compaq ProLiant 1600, 2500, 3000, ML330
Compaq ProSignia 200
Basically, the Java GUI starts up but cannot start GUI installation portion of the NetWare installation.
There are patches that you need to apply first - by placing them in the C:\NWUPDATE folder prior to NetWare 5.1 installation - one of the patches gets the general installation functional and another get's the Java GUI installation functional.
After that - there are several post-SP2a patches (DS7.51a and Timesync for PIII processors) that need to be applied.
Compaq blames it on Novell saying their code won't work on "older" Compaq equipment like I mentioned above (gee, I didn't think the ML330 PIII-633MHz system was that "old") but I have gotten NetWare 5.1 to install on several Dell PowerEdge models (Pentium Pro, PII and PIII systems) plus every clone I've ever thrown at it and a HP NetServer LH (60MHz Pentium upgraded to 90MHz) - something that according to HP wasn't possible to do...
Check out Novell's Download section for NetWare 5.1 - the files are there - or you can search the knowledgebase with "C:\NWUPDATE" - that should locate them. If I have time tomorrow I will try to come back and post the exact file names on Novell's web site.
Thank you for the info!
I will give you some points for this valuable information!
I will give you some points for this valuable information!
sverre,
Here are the links I promised:
Updated v5.1 Server Java Installation Files:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2957541
-solves problem with the Novell NetWare Java GUI functioning during install (all Compaq servers)
Updated SERVER.EXE to resolve Pentium III Timesync issues:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2958591
-fixes problem with time drifting when using Intel Pentium III processors
NDS update for NetWare 5 version 7.51a:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2958259
-this stopped an abend in DS.NLM on a ProSignia 200
NetWare 5.x In-Place upgrade failes:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2957421
-fixes a problem where NetWare could not upgrade from 4.x to 5.x (all Compaq servers)
You can find more patches (including installing NetWare on an Intel Pentium IV processor) here:
http://support.novell.com/filefinder/9331/index.html
Here are the links I promised:
Updated v5.1 Server Java Installation Files:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2957541
-solves problem with the Novell NetWare Java GUI functioning during install (all Compaq servers)
Updated SERVER.EXE to resolve Pentium III Timesync issues:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2958591
-fixes problem with time drifting when using Intel Pentium III processors
NDS update for NetWare 5 version 7.51a:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2958259
-this stopped an abend in DS.NLM on a ProSignia 200
NetWare 5.x In-Place upgrade failes:
http://support.novell.com/servlet/tidfinder/2957421
-fixes a problem where NetWare could not upgrade from 4.x to 5.x (all Compaq servers)
You can find more patches (including installing NetWare on an Intel Pentium IV processor) here:
http://support.novell.com/filefinder/9331/index.html
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