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Hi All.

Can anyone help me make this work in NS?  It's beautiful in IE.

<script language="JavaScript1.2">
<!--
var head="display:''"
function change(){
   if(!document.all)
      return
   if (event.srcElement.id=="foldheader") {
      var srcIndex = event.srcElement.sourceIndex
      var nested = document.all[srcIndex+1]
      if (nested.style.display=="none") {
         nested.style.display=''
         event.srcElement
      }
      else {

         nested.style.display="none"
         event.srcElement
      }
   }
}
document.onclick=change
//-->
</script>
   <ul>
      <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader">Local News</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/CreemoreEcho">Creemore Echo Weekly Paper</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/CreemoreEcho/subscribe.asp">Echo by Email</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/Business/BusinessDirectory?cat=Events">Annual Events</a></li>
      </span>  
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/Business/Business_Directory.asp">Business Directory</a></li>
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/Business/Artist_Directory.asp">Artist Directory</a></li>
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader">Helpful Info</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canada411.sympatico.ca/')">Canada 411</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canoe.ca/MoneyStocks/default.html')">Stock Indexes</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canadapost.ca/CPC2/addrm/pclookup/pclookup.shtml')">Postal Codes</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/traveller/conditions/georgian.htm')">Road Conditions</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canada.gc.ca/')">Government of Canada</a></li>
      </span>
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader">Agricultural Links</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.farmzone.com')">Farm Zone</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.agr.ca/')">Agriculture Canada</a></li>
      </span>
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader">Municipal Information</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/municipal.asp">Telephone Numbers</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.clearviewtwp.on.ca/')">Clearview Township</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.mulmurtownship.ca/')">Mulmur Township</a></li>
      </span>
    <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader">Visitor Information</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/v/">Visitor Information Centre</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/v/_sitepages/map.asp">Map to Creemore</a></li>
      </span>
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader">Create Your Own Website</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/online.asp">Get Your Creemore Web Site</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/online.asp">Get Your Creemore Email</a></li>
       </span>
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader">Contact Creemore</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="mailto:help@creemore.com">help@creemore.com</a></li>
      </span>
</ul>

TIA.
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by:coreyit
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hmm... the style="display:none" is a tough one here. Netscape 4 doen't give you any good means to change access the element by id or change the values of a class. I'm sure that that's nothing new to you, as you're a amjor contributor to this ta. I've started playing with this some and will try to figure something out. In the meantime, if you're really just looking to do a tree -style nav, there are a few cross-platform ones out there:

http://kmserv.com/testbed/tree/tree_ex3.html

for example.
( massive js's to go with that at:
http://kmserv.com/testbed/tree/tree_n4.js
http://kmserv.com/testbed/tree/tree.js
)

-corey
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by:ClassyLinks
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Hi corey.

Thanks for the input so far.  I appreciate your efforts & time.

The only thing I don't like about that tree nav is that it appears to me that you need to click on the + or - of the tree to get it to function.

This is a community portal site....I need it to be super easy.  65% of the community is in the 55+ category.
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by:ClassyLinks
ID: 6351319
I've found one that even works with NS3 (aparently).

http://yx.webprovider.com/

I'll keep this thread open for today, but don't spend too much time on it anyone.....I guess I'll just have to recode it.

I don't know what possessed me to think the above code was good for netcrap....guess I was in the middle of another blonde moment.

cheers.
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by:ClassyLinks
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<grrr>

That new link isn't going to work either.  I have 100 more points to anyone that can get help me to get my original script to function with Netnightmare.

Thanks!
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by:ClassyLinks
ID: 6351776
So, taking out the style="display:none" from the spans does enable the links for NS, but naturally everthing is expanded.

Do you think I need to employ layers or some other nonsense to get it functioning?
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by:ClassyLinks
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I know I'm talking to myself here, but it's helping....


These pages are all ASP.  What about something like:

If browser= IE then response.write "style:'"display:none"'
end if
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by:pjtt
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One thing I noticed is that you have duplicate IDs for the li elements. IDs are always supposed to be unique. I'm going to bang away at this, should be able to get it to work.

Peter Tracey
Developer
http://www.25online.com/peter
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I really appreciate it Peter.
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by:pjtt
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Sorry pressed refresh and it posted my comment a bunch of times. Looks like you're in for a rewrite :( It's going to have to use .write() instead of changing the display attribute.

Shouldn't be too hard to alter one of the scripts given to activate the entire text as the expander instead of the + and - icons.

Peter Tracey
Developer
http://www.25online.com/peter
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by:ClassyLinks
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So, what is my first step?

BTW - the + and - are set in my css file.  You don't need to see that do you?
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by:pjtt
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For the first link giving the code goes like this:

function makeTreeItemCore(label, id, name, fontSize, fontColor, fontColorHilite, icon, openFolderIcon) {
  label = label.label || label;
  var item = ' <DIV ID="text" STYLE="position:absolute;left:0;top:0;fontSize:'+ fontSize +';color:'+ fontColor +';">&nbsp;' + label + '&nbsp;</DIV>\n';
  item += ' <DIV ID="hilite" STYLE="position:absolute;left:0;top:0;fontSize:'+ fontSize +';color:'+ fontColorHilite +';visibility:hidden;">&nbsp;' + label + '&nbsp;</DIV>\n';
  item += ' <DIV ID="icon" STYLE="position:absolute;left:0;top:0"><IMG SRC="'+ icon +'" NAME="'+ id +'-'+ name +'"></DIV>';
  if (openFolderIcon) item += '  <DIV ID="opener-'+ id +'" STYLE="position:absolute;left:0;top:0;"><IMG SRC="'+ openFolderIcon +'"></DIV>\n';
  return item;
}

Where it says "if (openFolderIcon)" you can change it to include the text of the item instead of just the icon. It may need a little tweaking beyond that, but that's the basic idea.

Peter Tracey
Developer
http://www.25online.ocm/peter
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by:ClassyLinks
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The refresh is a bug of EE....you need to use the REload Question button at the top right of the page instead.

8-)
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by:ClassyLinks
ID: 6351951
Ok, you've lost me.

Am I replacing my entire code with what you posted?

I don't have any icons (I was using a bulleted list) and the font size, color etc are all in my css.  Do I still need them in the function?

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by:pjtt
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See the link: http://kmserv.com/testbed/tree/tree_ex3.html


It's a tree script that works in IE and NS. All you need is to modify it to use the text of the item instead of an icon next to the text. The function I showed you is from the NS version of that script, all you have to do is modify pieces of the script like that one and it'll be exactly what you want.

Peter Tracey
Developer
http://www.25online.com/peter
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by:ClassyLinks
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That is the link that coreyit posted above yesterday.

I've been working on it ever since with no success.

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by:pjtt
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When I said "Shouldn't be too hard to alter one of the scripts given " I was referring to those given in the comments above. I could do it but it would probably take me several hours. Should I? It wouldn't be today though. Maybe tomorrow.

Peter Tracey
Developer
http://www.25online.com/peter
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by:ClassyLinks
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The two .js files download as a bunch of wierd characters for starters, the link in the instructions to the download is dead (as is every other link on that page)

There has to be a way for me to determine which browser is being used.  If it's IE, I include the span style, if not I don't.

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by:pjtt
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When I said "Shouldn't be too hard to alter one of the scripts given " I was referring to those given in the comments above. I could do it but it would probably take me several hours. Should I? It wouldn't be today though. Maybe tomorrow.

Peter Tracey
Developer
http://www.25online.com/peter
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by:pjtt
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So you just want all the items to be expanded if it's NS? That's easy, let me work on it.

Peter Tracey
Developer
http://www.25online.com/peter
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by:ClassyLinks
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Oh, Peter.  I thought you were referring to modifying my script.

Is my script beyond saving?
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It's great for IE and NS6 (with a little modification), but making it work in all versions of NS would mean a dramatic modification, unless you just want to make everything expanded for them, which I think is definetely the best option.

Peter Tracey
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http://www.25online.com/peter
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by:ClassyLinks
ID: 6352014
It's ok....it worked.

Here is what I did.

<% set MyBrow=Server.CreateObject("MSWC.BrowserType")
if MyBrow.browser = IE then
spanstyle = " style='display:none'"
end if
%>

and then in the span

<span id="foldinglist" <%=spanstyle%>>

Now NS is expanded all the time, but so be it.  At least it works!
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by:ClassyLinks
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I speaketh too soon.

Now it is expanded at first in IE too.  While this may be the best option, it is not what the client wants.
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by:ClassyLinks
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Yes Peter, if it were just expanded in NS and collapsed in IE that would be perfect.
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by:ericpete
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Classy,

Take a look at these two:

http://www.ivanpeters.com/
http://www.treemenu.com/

I used the one from treemenu for a site a while back, and it was actually pretty nice. Worked in NN 4, so I couldn't complain...

You might also find the solution somewhere in this article:
http://www.aspfaqs.com/webtech/072501-1.shtml

Hope it helps...
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by:ClassyLinks
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Hi eric.

Thanks for the links.  Will check them now.
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by:ClassyLinks
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Eric....did you implement any of these in a non-frames environment?

Most of the codes I've been working with are for frames and they have been a nightmare to work out for non-frames.

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pjtt,

Welcome to Experts-Exchange.

One of the reasons that many expert participate in this site is self promotion. However the posting of your site link in each comment not considerd permitted under the ser agreement, as it is considered advertising.

As you are new to the site, you were probably not aware of that.  You of course may post the link when the solution for the question is contained there.  

The appropriate place for the link is in your profile.

TIA for your co-operation.:o)


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Nice page though, isn't it? :)

Thanks for the info, sorry about that.

Peter
Developer
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by:ClassyLinks
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Hi teach...thanks for stopping by.  ;-)

Got any words of wisdom to pass my way today?  As in, how to get NS to magically transform into IE on everyone's machine!
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by:coreyit
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Referring back to the kmserv.com method, I'm sure you could modify the functionality to allow the text to perform the action. Actually, I just played with it some, and it appears that the action was meant to trigger from the text too. There seems to be some sort of bug with it. If you open the tree from a plus, you can then close it from the text. Likewise, if you open and then close from the plus (and minus), it'll then allow you to open it again from the text (just once). Curious.

-corey
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Sure Corey...but stripping out all the frame references proved disaserous for me.  8-(
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by:ClassyLinks
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Ok folks, I solved my own problem.

I've got it working to my satisfaction in both IE & NS.

I'm open to suggestions as to what I should do with this question.

The options are to delete it or to award the points to someone.

What do you think.

I should mention that all I did to make it work was use a browser detect script and dynamically write the span style for IE only.
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Classy,

You know me... I'll give points to people just because they ask... *smirk*...

To answer your question re: the treemenu -- to be honest, I replaced the site I was thinking of with ASP and don't remember, but since I'm an avid frames-hater, I'm inclined to think that I wouldn't use frames if I didn't have to. As I recall, I originally intended to use the menu without frames, and then realized I didn't have a lot of choice considering the type of site it was, so I did. Still, it worked fine in both NN and IE.

Re: the distribution of points: Personally, since you solved it yourself, I'd suggest the following:

1. Post the code changes you had to make. In other words, be a little more complete (for the benefit of all of us javascript dummies out there, who like to copy and paste rather than write... *grin*) with the solution to the problem.

2. Leave a note for teacher in the CS, and ask her to a) get rid of all the duplicate posts (I can't imagine anyone being offended over that) and b) zero the points of move the question to the PAQ.

3. If any of the responses were worth a few points by comparison to the original value of the question, you can always leave another question for that person. Anyone who cares will pick up the question and get the points; anyone who is only an occasional visitor here won't -- and you can get THAT question deleted easily enough (I actually had that happen... *laughing*).

Have a good one... and don't be so hard on Netscape... except that they ARE owned by AOL, which is almost as bad as Microsoft... *shaking head*... why the h-e-double hockey sticks are we in this business, anyway...
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As I already have notification on this thread, it is not necessary to post to CS.  Just let me know how you want to proceed.  If we keep it,
will clean up the duplicates as suggested.

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by:ClassyLinks
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Ok. For the benefit of the PAQ here is what I did.

First:

Find out what the browser is.  If it is IE,then set one set of variables, another for anything else.

<%
Dim Browser
  Browser = Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_USER_AGENT")
If InStr(Browser, "MSIE") Then
    BrowserType = "Microsoft"
    spanstyle = "style=""display:none"""
    fontstyle = "class= ""toplev"""
Else
    'BrowserType = "Other"
    fontstyle2 = "<p class= ""ns"">"
End If
%>


Then I added another class called ns to my css.

Next I used this script for the expand/contract (nothing changed here)

<script language="JavaScript1.2">
<!--
var head="display:''"
function change(){
   if(!document.all)
      return
   if (event.srcElement.id=="foldheader") {
      var srcIndex = event.srcElement.sourceIndex
      var nested = document.all[srcIndex+1]
      if (nested.style.display=="none") {
         nested.style.display=''
         event.srcElement
      }
      else {

         nested.style.display="none"
         event.srcElement
      }
   }
}
document.onclick=change
//-->
</script>


What makes it work is.....

I added some ASP tags to insert the correct class & style depending on the browser:

   <ul>
      <li <%=fontstyle%>id="foldheader"><%=fontstyle2%>Local News</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" <%=spanstyle%>>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/CreemoreEcho">Creemore Echo Weekly Paper</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/CreemoreEcho/subscribe.asp">Echo by Email</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/Business/BusinessDirectory?cat=Events">Annual Events</a></li>
      </span>  
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/Business/Business_Directory.asp">Business Directory</a></li>
   <li class= "toplev" id="foldheader"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/Business/Artist_Directory.asp">Artist Directory</a></li>
   <li <%=fontstyle%> id="foldheader"><%=fontstyle2%>Helpful Info</li>
         <span id="foldinglist" <%=spanstyle%>>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canada411.sympatico.ca/')">Canada 411</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canoe.ca/MoneyStocks/default.html')">Stock Indexes</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canadapost.ca/CPC2/addrm/pclookup/pclookup.shtml')">Postal Codes</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/traveller/conditions/georgian.htm')">Road Conditions</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.canada.gc.ca/')">Government of Canada</a></li>
      </span>
   <li <%=fontstyle%> id="foldheader"><%=fontstyle2%>Agricultural Links</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" style="display:none">
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.farmzone.com')">Farm Zone</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.agr.ca/')">Agriculture Canada</a></li>
      </span>
   <li <%=fontstyle%> id="foldheader"><%=fontstyle2%>Municipal Information</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" <%=spanstyle%>>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/municipal.asp">Telephone Numbers</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.clearviewtwp.on.ca/')">Clearview Township</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="javascript:new_window('http://www.mulmurtownship.ca/')">Mulmur Township</a></li>
      </span>
    <li <%=fontstyle%> id="foldheader"><%=fontstyle2%>Visitor Information</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" <%=spanstyle%>>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/v/">Visitor Information Centre</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/v/_sitepages/map.asp">Map to Creemore</a></li>
      </span>
   <li <%=fontstyle%> id="foldheader"><%=fontstyle2%>Create Your Own Website</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" <%=spanstyle%>>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/online.asp">Get Your Creemore Web Site</a></li>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="http://127.0.0.1/creemore.com2001/c/_sitepages/online.asp">Get Your Creemore Email</a></li>
       </span>
   <li <%=fontstyle%> id="foldheader"><%=fontstyle2%>Contact Creemore</li>
      <span id="foldinglist" <%=spanstyle%>>
      <li class= "level1"><a href="mailto:help@creemore.com">help@creemore.com</a></li>
      </span>
</ul>

Essentially, I didn't modify the JavaScript at all  (which is good because I am obviously no good at JS!)

Teacher_mod...can you please PAQ this for the benefit of anyone else battling NS....at the very least the Browser Check is worth something.

Corey, pjtt & eric...thanks for your input.  The links you suggest would work great if I were using frames....but like eric, I am a sure fire frames-hater.

eric....NS doesn't make my life easy...so why should I go easy on it? ;-)  I'm so glad I turned down AOL when they offered me a position a few years ago....Having to write code for NS is a NIGHTMARE!
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Okay points are set to zero.  ClassyLinks, I ussually give myself an A to PAQ these but, you get to do the honours.  The think ericpete made the PAQ solution so you should give him the A...because you can...

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by:pjtt
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I know this is after the fact but there's a great javascript tree menu that works in both browsers and doesn't require it's own frame, right under our noses at: www.webmonkey.com. For those of you who don't know about webmonkey, it's a great site packed with tutorials on web technologies, from html to java. What's more, they even wrote a tutorial on the construction of the menu in question, but the site is too slow right now for me to find it :(

Peter
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"To reflect these changes, Webmonkey went with an interface metaphor that almost all operating systems use to show a hierarchy of information, the browsable menu that can be expanded or hidden selectively. It's the perfect choice ? familiar, easy to use, and compact."

"In the pages that follow, you'll learn how we did it. So gather 'round for another Webmonkey campfire story, this time about the cross-platform, W3C-compliant, easy-to-use DHTML toolbar."

http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/01/12/index1a.html?tw=authoring

Hope this helps.

Peter
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Okay all cleaned up. I'm closing it.

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by:ClassyLinks
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Sorry for the delay folks....holiday weekend over here...house full of guests in combination with a deadline over this one.....ClassyLinks is a busy camper!

Ok...Peter.....I'll look at your link today or tomorrow.  The heat is off because the site is functional in all browsers, but I would like the expand/collapse to work across the board.

If the webmonkey link pans out, I'll post a question with some points for you.

Thanks all for your efforts & thanks Teach for your assistance.
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