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I have a system with a AMD K6-2 400.  I have 2 video cards, both I know for a fact work.  They're a CL Banshee and a 3Dfx Voodoo4 4500.  Both AGP.  

I just installed Windows98 Second Edition on my system and everything is working fine.  When it boots up into windows the cards come up as a SVGA Video Adapter.  When I try to load any drivers for the video cards at all and then reboot it will starting loading windows again which is fine.  The problem is that during the loading when it's still at the splash screen win98 freezes, or at least the splash screen freezes, the little bar at the bottom...and then if reboots and will not go into windows.  I've tried many drivers and both cards, they both do the same thing.

Any advice????

LP
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by:d_hall
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You seem to have posted this Q twice.  Check the other version for my adice.

http://www.experts-exchange.com/jsp/qShow.jsp?qid=20167115
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by:Tatsnice
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Voodoo4 cards drivers cannot load unless there is a standard vga driver loaded first.
This may be where your problems start.

Remove the other vid card and install the voodo 4 card after standard vga is loaded.

Then try the other card.
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by:LP080500
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I know, I wasn't sure which one to put it in so hoping for more answers I posted it in twice.  I'm willing to dish out the extra points for the answer.

As I said in the other post...I don't reboot it, it automatically reboots when it freezes at startup.

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by:LP080500
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I start off with a Standard VGA driver
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by:d_hall
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Follow the step-by-step I posted in your other Q - there's a good chance it will help you.
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by:RoadWarrior
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Make sure Video BIOS caching is disabled in BIOS Setup, check both the advanced setup and advanced chipset setup screens, disable it in both. Voodoo based cards hate video BIOS caching on account of it being slower than their native BIOS access scheme.

Also check you have your AGP apeture set way above main mem in BIOS.

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by:LP080500
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What does the AGP apeture do?

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by:RoadWarrior
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That selects an address range for the AGP card to map it's buffers to, if it's inside the main memory range it causes memory problems because the system memory is already using those addresses.
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by:joe_aqs
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Remove ALL other cards in the system, then load the video drivers..

Then, after the video is installed, start putting in ANY other card(s) you may have in the system.

Joe
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I think I figured out what the problem is.  I also have a SCSI card installed for the SCSI haddrive.  Well the SCSI controller and the AGP card both have the same ICQ.  Problem is that I can't change their ICQ's.  I tried moving the SCSI controller to a different slot and it loaded into windows.  But whatever the SCSI card's ICQ is the AGP's ICQ seems to change.

Becuase of this when I right click on the desktop to change the settings for the AGP card it comes up with:

An error has occurred while Windows was working wtih teh Control Panel file C:\windows\system\desk.cpl.


Not only this but the SCSI controller shows up in device manager with a '!' on it showing that there has to be some kind of conflict going on with them.

So any new ideas now?  And keep in mind with your answers that I work for an ISP company so I do know what I'm talking bout.  I'm not just some newbie when it comes to computers.

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by:RoadWarrior
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If you can find the setting, "Assign IRQ to VGA" in BIOS, try turning it off, you shouldn't really need it. That may help.

Heh, btw, your statement about not being a newbie sounds really funny after just going on about ICQs instead of IRQs  :-)  I know, a typo ;-)
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by:pbessman
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If SCSI card is in PCI slot right below the AGP card some systems share IRQs that way.  Check your motherboard manual as devices which require bus mastering as a SCSI card should, you may find hwo to change the IRQ there as well.  Did you move any cards in the system?
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by:LP080500
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k, I got all the cards working for the most part including the AGP.  But it still freezes some times becuase of the SCSI.  It's using IRQ 12 and I can't change it.

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by:pbessman
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SO, it is sharing with your PS/2 compatible mouse port?
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by:pbessman
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make sure BIOS is set to boot from SCSI.  
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