Posted on 2001-08-12
Last Modified: 2010-04-06
Hello I get that stupid error if I do this
function error:extended;

procedure TForm1.Button1Click(Sender: TObject);
xw:=error+xw;     // if you write xw:=1/2+xw  there is no compiler error!

You sure now why!
Question by:dluedi
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Expert Comment

ID: 6377269
I'm not sure what you mean. You're talking about "EInvalidOp", which is an exception. Then you're talking about a compiler error, which is a totally different beast than an exception.

Furthermore your code doesn't make much sense. I mean in this line:

xw:=error+xw;     // if you write xw:=1/2+xw  there is no

The "xw" variable is undefined. So it's like using:


What's the sense of it?

Regards, Madshi.

Author Comment

ID: 6377630
Sorry, I made a mistake, of course EInvalidOp is no compiler error, and the error I am talking about happens when program is running...this program looks quite wired, that's because I shortend it (in reality it sure doesn't look like this). I just wanted to make it simple...I think I need just to define xw in oncreate...I'll try it. I thaught that if a variable is not yet defined its 0
But isn't it still strange that xw:=1/2+xw doesn't create an EInvalidOp but xw:=error+xw does....its actually the same????
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Expert Comment

ID: 6377714
just a guess

try this change

function error:extended;

just to say that error is a constant in the windows unit,
maybe this causes the problem

meikl ;-)
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Expert Comment

ID: 6378053
xw := error + xw
xw-xw := error

0 <> 1/2 thus it is an invalid statement

You need to initialize error as a constant and xw needs a value assigned to it in order for the calculation to work.

Thas is basically what the other experts are saying.
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Expert Comment

ID: 6378698
Well, it's no mathematical formula here, it's an "assignment". I mean, in pascal we write ":=", we don't write "=" and that has a meaning! The purpose is to show that both sides may not be equal before the assignment. You can also do this:

var xw : integer;
  xw := 5;
  xw := 10 + xw;

You could also say here xw-xw := 10 and 0 <> 10. But that doesn't matter, because it's an *assignment*.

Regards, Madshi.
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Accepted Solution

Madshi earned 30 total points
ID: 6378712
I've checked the problem in my D6. The problem exception occurs only if you have not initialized xw before the assignment. If you initialize it before the assignment, everything works fine. I'm not sure about the reason. But the reason doesn't really matter. It's considered a *catastrophic* programming style to use uninitialized variables like that. My Delphi even throws out a warning when compiling.

Okay, I understand that you tried to cut down your sources. But in case that in your original problem sources you DID initialize xw, you'll have to do the cutting again, but this time cut it in a way, that Delphi doesn't show any warning when compiling -> do initialize all variables before you use them in a calculation.

Regards, Madshi.
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Expert Comment

ID: 6379433
Your'e right Madshi! I realized the error after I posted.

But I do appreciate your excellent observation and discussion on the difference between '=' and ':='.

I realized my mistake when I thought about incrementing a number:

i := i+1;

anyway, you are correct the value must be initialized.

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