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Adobe InDesign: Q... Publishing for a copier like Kinkos

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I am trying to put out a newsletter and my first issue was done from Photoshop and was OK, but the text was a bit fuzzy along with the pictures. I was told I could raise the resolution to 300dpi on the photos and have it come out better. Well I discovered I had InDesign and I started to make my template over again in there. I compleated my duel page front and back attached (for the printers sake) and tried to save a high quality PDF for transporting to the printers, but now while the text appears quite clear, its the pictures all messed up not even really to the point you can tell what it was.. what gives?
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You probably increased the rez of the images without taking into account that images print smaller when you do that. So in effect you increased the size of the images. When you increase their size in either Photoshop or InDesign you interpolate pixels. Interpolation means that the program had to "make up" pixels that werent there in order to fill in the gaps. Its far from perfect. 99% of the time the resulting image will be blurry and ugly. You may have also failed to properly embed the images into the document and so it ended up trying to print the preview which again, is going to be ugly. And as stated in your previous question, send them the InDesign document, not a PDF. Its MUCH easier to troubleshoot it when you have the original.
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Actually while some images remained the "same" others were imported at a better quality. It stands to show that only a few would then be garbled but a few should at least be equal to the origional printing. There's something wrong with how I saved it. Thats my question, not whether bringing an origional InDesign doc would be easier. I al also not sure whether kinkos can use an InDesign formated Doc. I am trying to cover all my bases. If I don't set it up right, it can never be printed right.
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It would be wise to call Kinkies and find out if they can take an InDesign doc. If not i would suggest giving them an EPS file. And again:

You probably increased the rez of the images without taking into account that images print smaller when
you do that. So in effect you increased the size of the images. When you increase their size in either
Photoshop or InDesign you interpolate pixels. Interpolation means that the program had to "make up"
pixels that werent there in order to fill in the gaps. Its far from perfect. 99% of the time the resulting
image will be blurry and ugly. You may have also failed to properly embed the images into the document
and so it ended up trying to print the preview which again, is going to be ugly."
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How would I "properly embed" the images for printing. I did the "place" command ctrl+D and then you make a box for the imported graphic and bam ... now this must be wrong because its not that the image is too small or missing a few pixels its just a black and smeared nada ..
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Try making the placement box FIRST, then import the media.
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ha ha ha Actually after three hours of experimentation, I found that a gif can not be imported without severe export to PDF smudginess/can't make out the graphics syndrome. But, a jpg will make it. Most of my images in the InDesign doc were gifs (transpareny is why).. so I have replaced all gifs with a PDF copy of the graphics, now they print to PDF beautifully, however in my highest res pic (600dpi logo) I found no matter what amount of tweaking I gave those graphics, they'd print only when I reduced them to 72 dpi. In fact any other resoultion other then 72dpi gave the reduced pic jagged pixelated edges.

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Theyre printing oddly because JPEGS werent meant to go to a printer (neither were GIFs). They werent really meant to store dpi information. So instead of JPEG use TIFF. GIF and JPEG are purely web formats. They shouldnt be used anywhere else.
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you didnt mention PDF format. it also seems to work well.
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