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Hi all,

Is there any way to tell which databases have a particular group in the ACL? I can open each one and have a look, but I want to make sure none are overlooked before I delete unwanted groups.

I was hoping there was some kind of analysis tool to help.

Thanks,
Andrew.
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Hello Andrew,

this one is easy :-))

Look into catalog.nsf on server. Therin is a view "AccessControlList\ByName". Therin you can find all databases where your GroupName is entered on all servers (and which access level).

Is this wath you are searching for?

Regards,
zvonko

PS: If this catalog.nsf is not present on server, than do on the servers console this command:
LOAD CATALOG
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Team Studio does this rather well, along with the database analyzer from easy access software. Team Studio is a touch pricy.

www.easyaccess-software.com
www.teamstudio.com

I have a quick and dirty analyzer that I built that collects the ACL via script, and Notes Net, I believe has one that does it via the API.

The only way I know to collect it and show it is via some script that you attach to either a copy of the database catalogue, or via an agent that collects the database entries into a "administration" database that you can use to maintain all your databases.

Marilyng
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have a look at this two:
http://www.notes.net/sandbox.nsf/e7425656e0c80508852567540065d7f9/11f736c9d472b15885256996006d7458?OpenDocument
http://www.notes.net/sandbox.nsf/e7425656e0c80508852567540065d7f9/81deffed8f49e561852568d4006c98e4?OpenDocument

The last one is my posting to SandBox, less for auditing, but for easy text editing of ACL and mainly to restore a former saved (and/or modified ACL) state.

But to find db's with particular ACL group name look simply into catalog.nsf ....
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zvonko,

cool.. these look good and simple..and free!!

Marilyng

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thank's for feedback <|;-)

may I add only this, that the first link is very beatyfull html generator, very nice user interface.
My tool is more to look at LotusScript techincs for accessing ACL's with too simple user interface.
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Thanks zvonko,

since it was so easy, can I reduce the points? ;-)
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:-))

I think you have checked the radio button:
 () This question is easy (50 points)
...and for this it was 50 pennies.

But primarly I would be interested in wether my hint was the solution for you. As you see most comments are from high-end expert to another <|;-) and less betwean question asker and helper...

And for my points; please give me: A+

Regards,
zvonko
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well, your hint was a 90% solution - I have 7 servers to check, so it makes the job MUCH easier.

>As you see most comments are from high-end expert to another

!! But high-end experts shouldn't need to ask any questions!! :-))
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Thank you Andrew for the points and for the feedback <|;-)

but let me give you one more comment (for the last 10%)...

If your CATALOG task is running on all seven servers and your catalog.nsf is a correct replica on all seven servers than you can look in one db for all servers. Or have I misunderstud something?
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yes, well, you see, catalog.nsf isn't being replicated (I didn't even know it existed, remember?).

Should it usually be set up the way you describe? If so, how would I go about setting it up? Do I just delete the files from 6 servers and replicate the last one?

Also, why did you change your name?

Andrew.
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Andreag,
zvonko and I are two different people.  I am more a programmer rather than administrator, so my experience with catalog.nsf is of two different varieties:  One is that it is configured to catalog only the current server's files, or that it is configured to catalog all domain databases.  You'll need to see which yours is doing.  If you didn't set them up to be one big repository, then they each contain ONLY the current server's published databases.

On the program management side, we tend to spawn a different database to manage ACL's, permissions, size, groups, etc., because catalog.nsf is not always set to collect and publish all the databases, and there are some that are "support" databases that we don't want to appear in the public catalog, but want to manage.

This is why I didn't suggest using the catalog.nsf to check for ACL's, but rather a third database that can not only check the ACL's, but maintain them with a variety of agents and code buttons that can do this automatically.

Also, I've noticed a variety of different ways that administrators use the "administration" server.  So, for instance, if you rename a group from the NAB, the "administration" server should update and remove the group from all affected "databases" - but, only if the database has assigned an "administration" server.


Catalog.nsf is kinda like the server log.nsf, it normally only applies to the current server's adminp and event process.  I believe it would be a mistake to "delete" all the other catalog.nsf files, and replace them with a replica of the hub's catalog.nsf.

But, since you awarded the points to Zvonko, perhaps he should be answering your latest question.

smiles,
marlyng
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Another thought..
if your database isn't configured to "maintain a consistent ACL across all replicas" then changing the ACL on one replica might not change it in the other.

If your database is replicated across all your servers, then you need to only deal with one database's ACL and replicate that to the other replicas.

Therefore,you'd only need to open the catalog.nsf on the server where you intend to make the changes.

marilyng
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:-))

>>zvonko and I are two different people.

thanks for the clarification marilyng!! what I meant was: why did "stamp" change his name to "zvonko".

thanks for the info though.

I can see I'll have to do a bit of research on setting up the catalog.nsf properly...

Andrew
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(stamp is stamped <|;-))

For ACL problems with catalog.nsf look for Technote#177274 here:
http://support.lotus.com/sims2.nsf/802ee480bdd32d0b852566fa005acf8d/b5b9051b08d8abc585256856004aecae?OpenDocument

About deleting all catalog.nsf until last one and replicate, that I do not know. I allways supposed that the catalog task do this all right. But this your idea with replication should allways work.

To the question why I changed my EE logon: when I wanted to register first time in 1998 to EE, was my firstname already in use. Three years later, after asking EE community support, they told me, that there is no problem. When Zvonko is in use, is zvonko not in use :-))
But they could not refund my expert points, so I am now begging for any single point I can get (to cath this beggar Arun :-))

...but mainly I am doing this for fun (not for t-****s).
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