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Setting Default CD-ROM Drive

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A friend has a system with two CD-ROMs.  He asks, how do you instruct the system to default to one CD-ROM over another when running an application that requires a CD as an adjunct data resource?

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Two CD ROMS or a cd burner/DVD and a normal CD ROM?
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Normally, you do this in hardware configuration by putting one ahead of the other either as the primary slave or as the secondary master over the secondary slave.  You put the one you want as default in the master role.  

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When installing an OS it will also ask you where the CD is if there is more than one CD Rom drive.  I have found that the one you choose to install the OS seems to get the inquiry for following software updates over the other.

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Good comments so far.  Think my answer to the first comment is that it's a normal CD-ROM and a burner unit.  My best recollection.  

The master / slave thing makes sense, as does the system "remembering" which drive was used to install the OS/application.  

Any further sense of which is the best likelihood to pursue?

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Well I would put the one that he wants as default in the secondary master controller and the other as the secondary slave.

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Master Slave relationship is more reliable.  Set the CD rom as Master and put the burner as slave.  Check your documentation your burner may want to be Master.  If this is so, put the CD rom on the primary IDE channel as slave to your hard drive.

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Sorry rhinoman beat me to responding.  I got to watch my responses keeping them short.  The server seems a bit slow lately taking as much as 45 seconds to load EE on my cable modem.  Normally these pages just blink up for me.

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Hi pbessman I was having that problem as well thinking that either EE was the problem and then I discovered that I was encountering the same problem else were on the Web. Thinking the problem was something to do with my system I spent a couple hours trouble shooting it with no luck. So just to verify it was a problem with my system or not I called my ISP, guess what they got hit pretty bad by a new virus that was bombarding their servers and was heavily interfering with page loading for the users.

The problem seems to be less heavy today but it still seems to be there and Zone Alarm on my machine has been logging several hundred hacking probes the last two days. This afternoon it had logged over 600 hits in less than 36 hours and I usually only get hit with about 10 to 15 probes in the same time span.


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CDobyns I do hope you don't accept this proposed answer as YOUR answer as I believe I have already mentioned this possibility.  I saw rhinomans copy of my info as a comment before, I did not realize this was a proposed answer.

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rhinoman, I see you are new here.  I will say only this  if you read the bottom of the page here it has this same info.  We like to share here rather than post answers.  When you posted your proposed answer you "locked" others from responding to this question.  This not only limits access for others who have possible solutions but it prevents the questioner from seeing more alternatives.  Especially when the proposed answer has already been commented on by the questioner.
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Hey CrazyOne, like my response to a locked question?  I bet they are just "upgrading" their site again.  More like degrading if you ask me.
My firewall box says nothing out of the ordinary.  I can look to see what has been going on with it.  No strange blinking like it did during the Code Red virus.  I still don't trust software as protection.  Sorry, but I prefer not to use any "antivirus" or any other sort of protection while surfing or using my computer.  If I wanted to slow myself down I would have bought a slower processor.  Thanks for the info though.

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Happy belated EE anniversary CrazyOne.  Sorry I missed it.  Good to see you.

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Hehe thanks I forgot about it myself. :>) Always good to see you as well.

I can understand your not trusting software protection but I have seen test that show Zone Alarm to be just as impervious to attacks as hardware firewalls. Even hacking guru Stever Gibson is impressed with it. I have ran tests of my own to see it there is any difference in reponse times with and with out it and found no detectable differnce.

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It is one of the most common reasons for trouble calls with @home.  People set it up and they set the security so high that they can't get their IP address from the DHCP servers.  I know how to set it up correctly but have yet to have anything bad happen so I figure I don't need it.  There are certain places on the net I don't go and I won't say where they are but I would say that they could be classified as "websites of ill repute".  Like that? I am referring to websites most commonly visited by those who later are affected by viruses and crackers.  OK, I will say one for sake of arguement.  When you use ICQ you open up yourself to all sorts of attacks.  Knowing how to close the ports that ICQ opens up I find no need for a firewall.  I actually just avoid opening them up in the first place by not using ICQ anymore.  
     In setting up services for people over the past three years I have learned a lot.  MIRC is commonly used by crackers as a method of transferring pirated software.  I refer to that as the "crack" neighborhood.  Another place that unsuspecting computer users can obtain viruses.  When I heard "crackers" complain they had been hit by a virus I never felt like saying anything less than "it serves you right."  Unfortunately, I was too nice to them and since I never actually saw them, they told me about all the software they had obtained.  It was more like bragging just to try an upset me I am sure.  I should have removed their cable modems all together just to spite them back.  Anyway, I don't use those things and unless someone gets my IP address from something I should be ok.  You know those chain letters?  That is another way a cracker can obtain a list of IP addresses.  Especially if they put themselves in part of every "send to" list.  OK, enough rambling.

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Lot's of give-and-take already displayed here on the proposed answer vs. proposed comment conventions - and the first-come/first-served equitable treatment of accepting proposed solutions.

Hence the reason for reject.  Nuff said.

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Looks like this is the solution du jour based on feedback I received from my friend this evening.  Thanks for everyone's input.

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If this is the solution why a "C"?  That hardly seems fair as you had the response within 15 Minutes of asking the question.  

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Here's my thinking on grading.  

Grading is a function of the perceived difficulty level of the question.  The answer is still correct and certainly the value of the answer to me (or my friend) is no less important, but I think you see my point.  I suppose the best analogy is like in Olympic diving, where you get a "difficulty of dive" factor added or multiplied to your assessed score based on the how hard the dive is.  

As to the time turnaround issue, I guess I'm reminded of the story about how late in his life someone asked Pierre Renoir to do sketch for them, and Renoir took some charcoal and drew a beautiful portrait on a small piece of paper in about 10 minutes.  And when the person insisted on paying Renoir something for the portrait he requested $100 (big money back then).  When the person objected and said that $100 was too much for 10 minutes work, Renoir replied, "it didn't take 10 minute to draw the portrait, it took me 20 years".  So, while I'm sure you're an "artist" in your own right, you're not to the Renoir level just yet.  

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Hi CDobyns

Interesting point. However here at EE the grading system is not related to the difficulty of the question. For one thing the difficulty of a question is highly objective. What seems to be a difficult problem to one may not be to another person. Here at EE the grading system works something like this.

If the comment answered the question then the grade should be an A.

If the comment almost but didn't completely answered the question then the grade should be a B.

If the comment was somewhat close to answering the question but was vague and the questioner had to come up with part of the solution himself or herself then the grade should be a C.

So in this case pbessman comment was pretty dead on the mark and it is worth more than a C. :>)
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Read my profile -  Of course some people do not appreciate the fact that the experts work purely on a volunteer level here and will grade them harshly - regardless of how much it may have helped them.
I guess I have taken to the habit of reading a posters grading record (in that capacity you will know who not to post answers for...)
My Thoughts Exactly,
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CDobyns you can assign various points based on how difficult you feel the answer it is or how quickly you would like an answer.  As shekerra mentioned, many people will avoid your posts in the future if you don't grade accordingly.      
     If it was not that difficult assign fewer points.  Don't insult those who answer your questions by downgrading their answers.  You may have wanted to get the attention of those who were looking to answer questions here.  When you post a 100 point question it costs you 100 points regardless of the grade given.  I have notified community support and hopefully they will rectify this situation, unless you decide to fix it yourself.

Thanks Shekerra and Crazy one for shedding light on this.  I appreciate it.  

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Can I offer my opinion too?  Doesn't matter I am going to anyway  :>)

I personally will only give an "A" for any question I ask, why you ask? Because everyone here is a volunteer (meaning they don't have to help you in case you don't understand what that is) and if they take the time to help me then I feel that should be rewarded, it doesn't cost me anymore points and they feel better  and if someone else "buys" this question looking for a solution they will buy a question with an "A" grade long before they will buy one with a "C" grade.

There are many question that are still open in the areas I help out in that I will not waste my time trying to help out because of the history of the user, you have put yourself into this group by choice. there are many users who have had to register a new user name in order to get any help from the experienced "experts" I almost always look at the user profile before answering a question. My time is more valuable then your time is to me, so if you want me to spend some of my time helping then you had better appreciate it and let me and others know you appreciate their help.

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In response to the CS question posted about grading standards:

CDobyns,

When you're grading an expert's answer it is important to remember that the grade you award to a question is a token of appreciation, not a "school" grade.

For grading, in general, I would advise to give an "A" unless you have a good reason to grade less, for example, if you asked for more information and you didn't get it, or the expert only gave you a starting point and you still had to do most of the grunge work yourself.

A "C" grade is particularly unacceptable if the person simply posted their suggestion as a comment. After all, you are not obliged to accept a comment as the answer.

The grade should not be related to difficulty, as that is what the points offered should indicate.  The grade simply rates the quality of the answer.

Another thing you might want to consider is that a lot of our top experts check an asker's grading record. If they see that an asker habitually grades questions with "B"s or even "C"s they would be very reluctant to give their help.

I will revise the grade to an "A" grade if you wish.  If you do not reply within a reasonable amount of time, I will take further action.

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Thanks Lunchy, I was trying to leave response in CS area but this site is very slow today.  Should I just delete it since I have gotten the attention I wanted this to get?

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I offer Lunchy and pbessman my support in this matter.

Thank you,
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Thanks Comtech.  Should I post a 10 point question in each area to see who else we can get support from?  (it's a joke I won't do that)

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I see that I've generated some good intellectual discussion on the issue of grading and in my own defense I guess I'm only a product of my own particular profession and industry which would espouse the philosophy that correct answers to basic questions are of the generally assumed standard of just "meeting expectations".  To really rise above that level or to the top level someone would need to correctly solve a problem along the lines of the age-old alchemy riddle of say, turning lead into gold - or something similarly challenging.

Acknowledging my skewed baseline of performance measurement and recognizing that this community clearly does exist as an fundamentally altruistic organization and that of the questions I have asked (and have had answered) in the past, something clearly in excess of 90% of the answers have been both timely and completely accurate.  

Given those facts, I stand before you completely chastened and as a clearly inadequate form of apology I would request that our Community Support Moderator modify my prior grading to reflect an A for pbessman's proposed (and accepted) solution.  

Thanks again for the input and thanks for the good, open discussion on the issue of grading. Pretty sure others will benefit for some of this give-and-take.  

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Thanks CDobyns, there are some problems with the way the grading system is presented in my opinion.  But we do all work towards excellent resolutions, and all we ask is a little appreciation.  Thanks again.  8*)

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Thanks apology accepted and I appreciate your willingness to cooperate.  I am glad this got a bit heated as well so that as you said,"others will benefit for some of this give-and-take."  I try to assist others and have fun doing it.  Glad I was able to assist you.  Sorry for drawing you into the debate.

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I forgot to thank all of those who have participated in this discussion, even though it had been closed.  I wish there was a way to return the points spent by anyone who had helped by responding after the answer had been accepted.  However, by setting this as an example hopefully others will not downgrade the efforts of those experts who have devoted personal time and attention to these matters.

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pbessman that will not be necessary, I know these people very well, you'll not find nicer or more giving Experts on the Site.

Myself and Lunchy, cannot have points anyway, but I am sure the above Experts were rewarded with your gratitude.

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