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Too large junk mail in pop3 account, using Outlook 2000

Matti
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Hi!              

Outlook 2000 is used to receive mail from pop3 account.

There is a size limit set, and when message is larger than this value it's a left behind on the server.

How clear these, is there anything else than download it or call to support and ask adminstratives to remove them.

No makros or skrips is allowed.


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Not sure about your question about removing attachments.  Normally when mail is refused at the server level, it is turned back to the sender.  You didn't say how big these attachments are.  You can have the sender zip them to make the size smaller.   Size limits are set at the server level in order to accommodate traffic and performance.  Even free e-mail accounts (Yahoo, Hotmail etc) have limits as very large attachments cause "roadblocks" that delay mail for all.  So it is necessary to limit size in order to maintain system performance.
I don't know of any system that allows unlimited attachment size.

If you are in need of receiving large attachments, I would suggest instead you utilize one of the many internet common storage (I think driveway.com is one)  Or have the sender mail you the attachment on CD.

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Hi!

Mail is not refused at the server, it's on my account.

The server is a dialup and there is pop3 system.

Just need is there someting to set that it shuld give server a command to delete this mail, as it normal does it after downloding, not wan't to get all such junk to local macine, need option to delete them before this "code" arrives here.  

The answer might be no such button in Outlook 2000 but is this unclear what i wan't here.

No driveway.com MSN file cabinet's etc services, these may be used if i know someting large is coming.

Matti

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Call your ISP and ask them to remove the messages.  You could also request that they put a size limit on your account so those messages will not be delivered to the POP3 account.

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Hi!

slink9, size limit are there, but it's much more than, these junk messages are.
These will have pictures, flash code almost every form on advertisement **** and security problems is these days.

The size limit option in Outlook allows not to download these, but the problem gomes when it do not delete them from server, so i'm asking is there a way make Outlook 2000 have such Flag set?

>Call your ISP and ask them to remove the messages.

I know this, but the Outlook is the one which shuld clear this.

May be there is not solution in this program for this.

I let this be open for few days if no Outlook 2000 solution for this problem, i will close this and think who shall have the point's.


Matti

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You could let Outlook download them but automayically delete them.  That should provide the solution you are seeking.

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Hi!

If they are downloaded they are here as complete messages and that i need to avoid for security reasons.

May be i need to write own maler app to remove these un wanted ones safely, but that Outlook 2000 which i'm currently using, i wan't to keep using it in first hand.


Matti
Does your ISP happen to have web access to your mail?

If so, you could logon there and just delete them.

dill


Ooooo, thought just hit me.

Sign up for a free email at Yahoo.  Then under Options, set up Check Other (POP) Mail.

Add your POP account there.  Uncheck "Leave mail on POP server".  That way the mail is deleted from your pop, never gets to your machine, and you can delete it from Yahoo.

The good part about this is that you have to press a link for Yahoo to check your other pop mail.  So, it won't always grab all your mail.

The bad side is that you might receive some mail from the time that Outlook hits your pop server before you hit it with Yahoo and may get some mail in Yahoo that you wanted in Outlook.  I guess you could forward it back to your email account.

dill

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>Does your ISP happen to have web access to your mail

I have a web mail option, but not from Yahoo or outside, but in this case the mail goes direct to such container is it Named Outlook or IE these all are same html enabled containers as it is online, a link to poisoned picture or unwanted flash code makes it load anything, and grow up conters and give info who loaded them, this is misuse to make users visit sites they did not wan't to go, and to make system more safe it need to do someting.

I just think only way to stop this is not take the code to local computer.

And I'm now after is there any kind of setting in registry or someting else which gives a possibility only to send delete request from Outlook 2000?

The Outlook gives me info "did not download message from..." if i set the message size option but the all problems are not solved by this.

Also it has junkmail options to mark and move messages but in this case the message gets in to system.
 

Matti

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Go to http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/2576/magic.html and pick up Magic Mail Monitor.  It will let you delete large items without downloading the entire message.

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Hi!

Neo_mvps that looks like a good one, i try it. Also it look's that the Outlook do not have this option hiding somewhere. Currently i'm 99% sure it do not have this option.

I have not completly read the manual, but we shuld figure out here a working solution soon.

Matti

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Outlook 97 and Outlook 98/2000 Corporate/Workgroup offers something called remote mail that will let you download just the header of a message, but I can't remember if it will let you delete the message via that header.
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Try going to one of these web sites:

http://www.mail2web.com
http://www.mailstart.com

Enter your email-address/password and you should be able to view the contents of your ISP mailbox and delete messages from it as well.

All these sites really do is put a pretty face on a telnet session, which is the old way of clearing messages from a mailbox.

There are a few ISPs that don't support the sites above or telnet sessions, but most do.

Additionally, as Neo-mvps mentioned, Outlook CW mode allows you to configure remote mail, which does allow you to delete messages from the mailbox after downloading the headers.

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Hi!

The CW mode is not bossible in case of my system, this is a dialup and the LAN here which is mainly purposed as test system, it has no internet access and no need to do so. So did not try to modify anything or install Exhance server  here. The Outlook 2000 and Express are only mailers in my case. Also the Magic Mail Monitor idea did not very much interest as there is currently need to limit programs which have acces to the Intrnet by the firewall.

Travals idea to use an outside free service did work best in my case, as it did allow to read the header and delete the unwanted message/s'.

The ISP servise is not a realy possible longterm option, it do cost a lot as the phoneline has very high minute rate, also the password need to be replased every time.

I set a 100p personal Q for Neo mvps as thanks for the input in here!

Matti

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