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<div> VS Netscape ???

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Netscape doesn't seem to understand the tag <div> is there a way to write this tag for Netscape understand the <div> or i need to always use <table><tr> and <td> ???

What is the % of person who use Netscape as primary browser???
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If netscape doesn't understand DIV then you have done something wrong....there are a couple of differences between Netscape and Internet Explorer...but Netscape should generally understand DIV just as well as Internet Explorer does...

If you want an alternative to Internet Explorer's DIV...you can use the LAYER tag for Netscape....please bare in mind that LAYER is really a Netscape specific tag and it is totally read over by Internet Explorer as it doesn't recognize the tag.

The percentage of primary Netscape users is very small nowadays...that doesn't however mean that you should ignore that small group of people....

If you can show the code you are using where Netscape doesn't understand the DIV tag, then I might be able to help....

Max.
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Commented:
The div element has been supported by Netscrap all the way back to
version 2.  The problem is that it requires styling to be useful and
Netscrap 4.x is pretty buggie on styles. However for positioning it
is okay as long as you can use absolute positioning.

If you can't use absolute positioning then the div will not be treated
like a layer so you can't address it in scripting which means the page
has to be pretty static.

Browser stats for Aug:

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2001/August/browser.html

Cd&

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Here is my <div>

<div Id="test" Name="test" style="position:absolute; left:200px; top:225px; z-index:1; visibility: visible">
test
</div>
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Standing on its own that DIV should work fine.  what are you trying to do with it that Netscrap does not like?

Cd&

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I never realized I was in such a minority. I've used Netscape for the last 7 years but always view my code in both, just in case. But 6%? I think maybe I shouldn't be devoting so much time to multi-browser compatibility. I like Netscape alot, but Netscape 6 was the final straw for me. What a total disaster! I'm back to 4.78 but maybe Netscape's days are numbered. How long before you go to a site which has this:

if (browser="Netscape") {
$download="Internet Explorer"
}

I haven't had any problems using the <div> tag with Netscape by the way. Works fine.

Mutt.

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I never realized I was in such a minority. I've used Netscape for the last 7 years but always view my code in both, just in case. But 6%? I think maybe I shouldn't be devoting so much time to multi-browser compatibility. I like Netscape alot, but Netscape 6 was the final straw for me. What a total disaster! I'm back to 4.78 but maybe Netscape's days are numbered. How long before you go to a site which has this:

if (browser="Netscape") {
$download="Internet Explorer"
}

I haven't had any problems using the <div> tag with Netscape by the way. Works fine.

Mutt.
LOL...

I still try to program for the majority of used browsers and platform and am proud to say that I do...it not only keeps me sharp...it also makes my sites better....it may be only 6%, but 6% is a lot of people....

Max.
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COBOLdinosaur, what does
  http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2001/August/browser.html
tell us? Not much more than nothing.
I'm able to generate any statistic which shows any browser at top with 80%. Which browser do like to be there? ;-)

BTW, I'm using lynx and w3m most the time, so this statistic must be wrong, 'cause I did visit more than 2000 pages/sites (even from different hosts) with these browsers :-o
The counter shows the global statistics of all the sites that use their counters...since this counter is pretty widely used...it gives a pretty good view of what is used and what is not...

Max.
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Using statistics I can proove anything, even the opposite.
That's why Murphy is right, for example that the most unreal will always happen first.
Anyway, looking at my example, and the comment about counters, it sounds that there are a lot of sides which *don't* use this "global counter".
Do you still believe in this statistic?
It at least contains to less information on how it was build.
It's just one statistic with some preconditions (which are not told), nothing more, nothing less.
(BTW, I also beleive that IE will be the browser mainly used)

mammouth, sorry for being off-topic.
Nobody said that this was the only statistics that can be gathered ahoffmann, but if you will just look at the number of users that they log each month you know that this is a serious source that you CAN use for reference...if you would go to another "big" statistics site you would get similar figures. Give or take 1%....all it was used for was a reference what users globally use...and offcourse you can generate another statistic....just use your own site and that will be different....but the fact that the counter uses all it's users websites together....makes it a much more reliable source... NUFF SAID!

Max.
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Glad we could help.  Thanks for the A. :^)

As for the side issue of stats:

If the size of the sample is large enough, and consistently
gathered, then they are helpful to see the trend.  

If you look at any large sampling the actual numbers may vary
based on the population of the sample, but the trend is crystal
clear.  Netscrap has been in a donward spiral for several years
and the introduction of version 6 last November increased the
rate of decline while IE continues to gain share.

For any public site, they have to look at their own stats to
determine what they will support.  Considering the additional
cost of cross-browser compatibility, it is reaching the point
where you have to question the value of continuing to Support
Netscrap.

Cd&
Another question where we are working together and I end up without points Cd&... LOL....grr...this way I will never get to your number 1 position....whahaha...like I ever will....

Max.

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I've got to agree with  COBOLdinosaur ,

Netscape's day is done.

I'm typing this using Netscape 4.78, but I know it's over for Netscape.
When will it be announced though?
???
 
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.. hmm, last link tells just half the truth:
Netscape was sold to AOL **and** Sun Microsystems. Both of them took over parts of Netscape and continue their businnes.
Probably you'll check http://www.iplanet.com/ too;-)

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