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Considering Novell's Bordermanger

Background info:
Currently own:
- Netware 5.0 (50 licenses)
- Exchange Server 5.5

I need a good firewall with VPN services.

I am considering an 'upgrade' to Netware for small business which will include Netware with 50 clients,
Bordermanager Firewall, Faxing and Groupwise.

Since this package also includes Groupwise... I also have the option of migrating and solving some long
outstanding problems with Exchange such as viruses, forms and workflow management (never very good in
Exchange), single instance stores and overall much better security (esp. over Internet).

My questions: Is this a sound idea because I'm basically (in a sense) downgrading, however, this company
does not expect to grow to 50 clients in the next 2 years (currently 28 clients and 40 computers/connections).

What are the potential pitfalls to this plan?  
Any additional benefits to doing this as I still have to
propose this plan to my CFO).

My other alternative was to install ISA2000 (apx. same cost).  

I'll start the reward at 150pts but will offer more for really good, detailed answers.

Thank you.
(question repeated from Novell group)
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Border manager is a reasonably decent firewall (certainly at least as good as ISA - I personally wouldn't trust anything from MS further than I can spit), and GroupWise is at least halfway decent.

But.... It's probably a bad idea to run your firewall on the same machine as everything else.  You want an architecture that looks more like this:

--Internet--Firewall--Internal-Network

Or better yet

--Internet--Firewall--Internal-Network
              |
            Internet-visible systems

Where Internet visible stuff would include your e-mail server.

And... If you really want to be cost consience, don't use $$$ commercial software at all.

An OpenBSD system running IPf makes a great firewall.
And an OpenBSD, FreeBSD, or Linux system running Sendmail and SAMBA makes a great e-mail and file/print server.  No workflow management support, though, without some fancier add-on stuff.
we looked into BoaderManager for a while. in the end, we went with Cisco Pix firewalls.

several reasons for this, some of which are:

- BorderManager REQUIRES a Novell Server to run. This is expensive to properly setup a box just for this.
- BorderManager is SOFTWARE, and like any software, can be hacked/crashed much easier than hardware - especially if the Novell box that it's installed on is not secure enough.
- BorderManager REQUIRES a Novell network to run. If you ever even consider moving away from Novell, you'll have to purchase a brand new firewall.
- If you want redundant firewalls (in case one does go down) you have to buy 2 boxes, and 2 copies of BorderManager. With the Cisco Pix, the 2nd redundant firewall is always included.
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I wouldn't touch a software firewall if I could help it.  However, I would look into the possibility of investing in a hardware appliance firewall - nothing too flash and still using Border Manager as an HTTP and application Proxy.

This would make it easier to configure outbound access as it could be done on a NDS object basis.  Your network would be much more secure as you would have an additional layer in front of your Proxy server and access would be assigned to just the one machine.

Any decent hardware appliance firewall will be much quicker to configure, more secure and easier to replace than a firewall application running on a server.
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