I have a text area that I have people paste multiple employee numbers from a spread sheet column. This equates to a one line per item list. Another forum user helped me by telling me that I could manipulate this text area as a list by using the Chr(13) variable which is the ascii eqivalent of a carriage return. Everthing works fine HOWEVER, there always seems to be a phantom item at the end of the list because the text area adds an extra carriage return to the end of the paste. If i paste 8 employee numbers, the listLen() will be 9. My logic told me to first Trim() the textarea before manipulating it as a list. Next, test the length and contents of each list item and if it was Len(listitem) of 0 and blank "" on the contents, I would do a listDelete at that spot. NO DICE. Any ideas?