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WIN16 Subsystem Timeout

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Hopefully on-forum.
Installed Win XP on 2 puters... one upgrade install over Wn98B (AMD500 256mb) and one via reformat (Fat32) etc.
Program Band-in-a-box (16bit) runs fine on the upgrade puter but just locks up on the other whenever I try to "OK" any menu.... eventually giving a Win 16 Subsystem Timeout error message (Athlon XP1.3g 256mb SiS730 chipset).
Not sure if there is any trick to setting up for 16bit apps??
Any help would be very much appreciated tks...
Peter Betts

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by:GUEEN
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First test this:
Go to start  |  run  and type command.com

Does it run?  If it does next check the command.com date - it should be the same date as when you installed XP.
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Also please provide sound card information for both boxes.
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command.com checks out ok......
sound card on working puter is onboard AC97 (Aopen MRX59Pro)

SOund card him no worky is Elite KRS5A mobo with SiS 730 chipset... onboard sound is  SiS 7012 (thats the driver in ctrl panel anyway)
The program asks for information on MIDI drivers etc and they appear in the relevent boxes, but clicking Cancel or OK just causes the program to freeze, and remains frozen until I CTRLALTDEL to terminate, after which the WIN 16 Subsystem "times out" ?! (so it says).... NTVDM.EXE is mentioned (a \System32 executable)

... hope this is the info you need...

Peter Betts
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So if I am reading this correctly the program runs on the system that had Win98 and was upgraded. The program doesn't run on the system that was formatted and a clean install was done.

Hmmm try this if there is not already a short cut to the program create one. Now right click on it and choose Properties > Compatibibilty and then click on the "Run in compatiblity mode" and then in the list choose the Win98 or Win95 compatibility layer. Click the ok button and see what happens. If it still does not work then you might for testing purposes put in an XP compatible sound card and see if the program works then. This could be an issue of the program not being able to interact with the current sound card. You might need to consider going as far as ugrading the BIOS with what is called a BIOS flash presuming the BIOS allows it to be flashed.


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Beat me to it CrazyOne. The compatibility thing should work but if it doesn't try uninstalling the program then install it in compatibility mode. To do this go to start - all programs - accessories - program compatibility wizard & choose to install from the CD in the drive in 98 compatibility mode.
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Is Band-In-A-Box being run from a PIF file?
If so go to the properties of the .pif and select advanced and uncheck 'Detect Idle Time'
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*sighs wearily*.....tks ppl... no joy...... NVTDM.EXE would not close down the program still...
Its a damn hardware/soundcard fault...
I removed the MPU-401 driver and the program responds ok now, but of course I have no sound because it wont recognise the SiS7012 drivers..... herself, on the other hand, has the MVP4 Apollo chipset, and her program maps nicely to the VIA External(onboard) midi port, and in fact we cant put the MPU-401 on her puter because it IRQs out or complains of not enuff resources... but she dont need it anyway. I have the latest drivers from SiS too :(
Might just find a proper 32bit midi/notation program.

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Tks Crazy.... you were on the right track at least...I need XP compatible hardware - either MIDI or Soundcard...
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oops... sorry about that :(
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Thanks for returning and finalizing this.
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Running 16 bit dental software program on a XP machine, just installed sp2 and the program has at least 2 minute lag when opening any application.... Any suggestions?
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Yes open up a new question.
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