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Hi Guys,
I have aproblem, i designed my Web Page using Front Page. I and Using FP fron the Office 2k CD, and its running on Windows 2K. Now the problem is the format of my web page looks great on my PC when I go straight to the URL and have alook, but when I reboot into Wind98 to check it my pictures are allover the place, the format is planely messed up. This is the same if i go to another PC and have alook. And help here Guys,
Many Thanx
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You want the real answer or the one you want to hear? ;-)

Real answer -- learn HTML, so you can understand what's happening to your layout on other machines. I suspect (actually, it's pretty much guaranteed) that you have a horrid table setup, or layers, or both, that the fonts are drastically changing size from one machine to the other, the tables are set as percentages, so when the browser window size changes everything shifts, and you've got a ton of extra spaces and returns to 'adjust' things on your machine that don't work right on other machines because of font/window/size differences.

Answer you want to hear -- you can rework the page in FrontPage so it looks better. This will take about...way too long, and will frustrate you so badly you'll never want to do anything ever again. ;-)

Bottom line -- get a decent HTML book, or go through some HTML tutorials online. It's the ONLY real way to understand what happens on a web page.  

FrontPage can be an OK tool -- but it does a LOT of things that are IE specific, sticks in a LOT of extra code that can totally screw things up, and makes it seem like anybody can do this stuff. There's more to it than FrontPage indicates. You're finding out that it just isn't that easy...especially if somebody else has to look at it.  ;-)
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I must completely agree with webwoman.  Knowing just a little html, not even being able to program in it, but being able to read it, will allow you to go into the html view of frontpage and understand what is wrong so you can tweak your settings.

Pick up any HTML book, HTML for dummies, is a good one, or join the HTML Classes at barnes and noble university http://www.barnesandnobleuniversity.com/ and learn html basics in just a few weeks.

Also HTML validator from www.w3.org will help you a lot.  Download HTML validator, then goto html view in frontpage, select all, copy, then paste in notepad.  Run the validator, it will tell you what errors your page has that arent html complient.  For every webbot, you will get an error as it does not validate frontpage tags, these you can ignore, but any tags with table or cell problems will lead you towards fixing your page.

Now for an actual answer... If you are using a lot of pictures on the site.  Create a table with a 100% width, and put one pic in each cell.  Then right click on the documeent inside each cell, select cell properties and change the width to pixels instead of percent.  Play with the pixel width until the layout is similiar to what your are looking for.

eWhisper


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eWhisper, we usually just use comments, and let the questioner decide on what's a good answer.

Proposing an answer locks the question, which means that most people won't look at it, which means that there's little if no more discussion -- and no more comments that might be better answers.

Without seeing how his page is set up, you have no way of knowing if what you proposed would even work, or if it's not already done that way.

And, FWIW, mixing percentages and pixels in a table can cause very strange things, especially in Netscape. Plus if you use percentage for the table width, it will resize with the browser window, which can throw everything all off -- which is exactly what they're trying to avoid.
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Sorry but webwoman cam up with the answer first. This is good, I like the truth, I should have thought of that first though shouludnt I.
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Thank You :)
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Thank You :)
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Thank you! Not everybody takes a 'you need to learn...' so well. ;-)
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Yeah well we all have to learn from our mistakes, if I cant take the truth then I shouldnt have asked the question in the first place.
I just have to find a decent book now, ??
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Yeah well we all have to learn from our mistakes, if I cant take the truth then I shouldnt have asked the question in the first place.
I just have to find a decent book now, ??
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