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Changing mother, micro and memory in an IBM Aptiva

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I got an IBM Aptiva with 32 MB RAM, 333 Celeron and whatever it comes with it, as a present. I have a motherboard Intel VC820, a PentiumIII 500MZ and 128 MB RIMM, plus a MP3 Sound Blaster, U.S. Robotics Modem and a 32MB Video thing I rescued from another PC. How can I replace the original IBM Aptiva components with these newer and better ones, and most important, can I do without having hardware incompatibilities? Thank you.

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by:slink9
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Without hardware incompatibilities?  Sure.  Without drilling, snipping, customizing?  Not likely.  IBM and other "assembly line" manufacturers use hardware specific to their design.  These are non-standard and will not fit in a regular case.  On the other side, they will not accept a standard AT or ATX motherboard.
In short.  You can't do this.  Buy a case for $40 or so from www.tigerdirect.com and salvage parts and pieces from the Aptiva as needed.
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by:magarity
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The IBM may actually be ATX format if it is a regular size case.  Only the extra small ones are proprietary these days.  Where can I buy a video thing, too?
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Slink is right that SOME manufacturers do purposely create a non-standard size case and MB, so that you will buy extra stuff from them. Unfortunately for them, it limits their ability to deliver inexpensive upgrades at purchase time. These folks include Dell.

Therefore, most machines can still take standard size PCI cards. SInce you also seem to want to swap the MB, I'd say to simply be careful and make sure that the ATX or MicroATX MB actually fits and that the power cables are all compatible before completing this project and applying the smoke test.

Slink has a reasonably good idea in just getting the new case - after all, what part of the Aptiva are you REALLY making any use of? On the other hand, if the PS is good and you LIKE the case style, it might very well support your MB choice... wish I had some direct experience with this machine, but I don't. Another advantage is that with just a few more $$ you end up with two machines instead of one.

If it were me, I'd keep this machine and add more memory, and put the MB in another case... but, I'd shop the case around.

Slink: Do you get a kickback from TD?    8 \
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by:slink9
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Do the keyboard, mouse, usb, other connectors line up with the case?  If yes, good, you have a standard type case.  Go for it, but make sure the power supply is at least 250W.  If no, the power supply doesn't matter, because you can't use the case anyway.
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by:slink9
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Nope.  No kickback from Tiger Direct.  And not employed by them, or employed anywhere other than my own consulting company at the moment.  Just a satisfied customer.
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by:Crash2100
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here's another good site for a case and parts, and their shipping is only $7 up to 150lbs!

www.tcwo.com
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by:slink9
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Hey crash, have you dealt with them?  Are they reliable?  How do they handle returns?
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by:Crash2100
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yes, I just built an entire computer back in december, and everything except the cd-rom's came from there.  I'm not sure about returns dealing with having to ship the item back.  But when I built my computer it woulden't start up.  Well I drove over to the store which is about 25 miles away and they tested the components and it turned out I just had two bad sticks of ram.  They swapped it out and everything has been fine since.

I've also seen good reviews of this store in computer shopper magazine.
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by:slink9
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Why did you accept an answer that pretty much completely agreed with my post?  What was the final solution?
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by:slink9
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Add dukakis to the list of posters that I ignore!!
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by:babylonfive
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Hey Slink,

Sorry about that kickback comment,.. it was most certainly a joke.

David (B5)
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by:slink9
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No biggee.  People just create their own inability to receive qualified help by grading fairly or improperly.  I know of quite a few who have abandoned questions or graded poorly that will receive no help from the best experts here.
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I think I should say it again, <Edited by moderator>.
Thank you Babylonfive.
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by:andyalder
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I agree with slink,

>>Slink is right that SOME manufacturers do purposely create a non-standard size case and MB, so that
you will buy extra stuff from them. Unfortunately for them, it limits their ability to deliver inexpensive
upgrades at purchase time. These folks include Dell.

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Dell, IBM, Compaq, HP, and just about every other big player makes their own custom motherboard for their owm custom clones that don't fit into each others cases. Get real, you can expand it by adding more cards but you cannot upgrade it without a hacksaw.
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dukakis

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Date: 05/04/2002 03:56AM PST
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by:babylonfive
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Wow.

I'm sorry that I'm involved with this whole thread.  I agree that grading should be careful and fair, but I also think that I added a significant amount of extra data and advice, only PART of which was an agreement with SOMETHING that slink said.

Also, andy, I think you may have misunderstood what I meant in the comment you quoted (I also accept if I badly stated it), which was: it's hard to make nonstandard PCI cards, but OEMs do (on occasion) do non-standard MBs. I'm glad that you agree on that.

Can we be done with this <Edited by moderator> thread?

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by:slink9
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When you do that mind reading thing you get the points.  I try to do that but miss it sometimes and just answer the question instead of trying to read between the lines.  Oh well, you win some and you lose some.
If dukakis can't play nicely, I don't want to help anyway.  One more questioner for me to ignore.
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How can I forbid Slink9 to add any other comment? World is full of bad loosers, and many of them think they are, how did he say?... "one of the best experts here". Those were his words... or his mother´s words, who knows? I graded babylonfive´s answer as fairly as I could and gave him the 300 points. I suggest Slink9 try to go for the points some other place and imagine what was there where the moderator edited. Thanks to everyone but Slink9.

Dukakis.
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