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Hi guys

I have a cisco 4003 and cisco 7200 router seperated with a HP switch.

I often use CDP which I believe multicasts (244.0.0.10) or is that E/IGRP?

Will the mulicasts (I think) pass thru the hp switch? Because I cannot see the other devices via CDP. Or they have to be DIRECTLY connected?

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by:scraig84
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That is EIGRP.  CDP is considered "media and protocol independent" so I don't think it comes out as an IP multicast.  The only info I could find said that it multicasts to the "common destination address 01-00-0C-CC-CC".  

If your switch is blocking multicasts you have a problem.  It is not the function of a switch to block multicasts or broadcasts.  That is a router's job.  A multicast should be treated like a broadcast and sent out all ports.  Is it a manageable switch?  Does it have multicast options (like an option to block them for some crazy reason)?
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by:dbrannigan
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thanks
its a HP procurve switch. I do apologise there are two of this switches in between. You are correct it does not use multicasts. Would you expect the CDP broadcasts to passthru the switches so the cisco 7200 sees the catalyst 4003? or would the 7200 ethernet side have to be plugged into the switch?

Cheers
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Well, I didn't mean to give the impression that CDP does not use multicasts - it just can't necessarily be considered an IP multicast.  It still multicasts to a hardware address.  Multicasts have typically the same network boundaries as do broadcasts - so multicasts should flow freely through the broadcast domain.  I would use a sniffer to view the packets as they leave each port if you can monitor in that way on your switch.  Othewise, if you can temporarily connect the two via a hub to see if it works that way, and then if it doesn't through the switch, you know where your problem is.
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by:mmedwid
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I can't say for the HP switch...but with Cisco switches...unless you activate "cgp enable" you wind up with multicasts hitting every port in the switch.  You might want to check to see if the HP switch has an equivilant of the cgp enable.  Heads up.
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CDP will only show you directly connected devices.

CDP is enabled by default in all cisco devices.

CDP can discover other devices as long as the connection does not go through any non cisco (ie non CDP) device.
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Thanks for all your help guys.. appreicate it.
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Just an FYI - dobbo's answer is not fully correct.  CDP sends messages at the data-link layer.  Therefore, regardless if a switch or hub is Cisco equipment or not, the messages will travel through it.  However, if your switch for some reason does not know how to handle multicasts, than you have a problem.  This would not be a CDP problem, but a problem with the configuration or abilities of your switch and would have problems other than just with CDP.

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