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I originally had two networks one with 192.168.10 address and one with a 10.1 address. They were trusted and everything was working fine. I then changed the 192.168.10 address to 10.1 sub-net and then had to break and recreate the trusted domains. Every sense I have done that I keep getting 192.168 ghost entrys in both domains wins databases and they are stopping my machines from communicating because the wins server keeps directing machines to the 192.168 network. How can I stop this. When I delete the enterys they just return. I have both wins machines in push/pull mode.

Why do my old IP address keep coming back and why do they take prority of my new IP address.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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by:TooKoolKris
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I going to assume that you don't have a DHCP server out there still handing out the old 192 addresses right? And that all of the clients for sure have adopted the new addresses. If this is the case then I would make sure that you don't have any old static mappings or reservations in either WINS database. If all else fails then I would try to uninstall and reinstall the WINS service on each WINS server. This would require a reboot of the servers of course.  

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by:adastratechsupport
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I was using DHCP on my 192.168 network but when I changed my network over I changed the DHCP server to hand out 10.80 address which worked fine. I really don't want to have to reboot this server it is in use 24/7.
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When you delete many WINS records, for example, you perform a deleted owner operation, the records are deleted from the WINS Manager display, then they are queued for deletion in the WINS database. If WINS is stopped and restarted soon after the records are deleted, the delete operation is purged from the queue and the records can be displayed again when WINS is restarted.

You didn't stop and start WINS after you deleted these from the database did you?

When you delete records in WINS, do not immediately stop the WINS service, especially on a WINS server that has many replication partners, as the deletion operation can be queued behind current replication operations. You may have to wait 30 minutes or more for all other pending processes to complete and for the deletion operation to be performed.

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by:SysExpert
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It takes a while for WINS to totally clean itself out.

WINS database update deletions. PURGE WINS, tombstoning.
The numbers are:
144 hours to be marked for deletion
     576 to be scavenged from database (removed from list).

I hope this helps !
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by:ymash
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Are any of the server dual homed? do they have a second NIC that still has the 192.168 address?
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