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Hello there,
I am having a strange problem with my PC( Celeron 400 Mhz, 160 M Ram, Two EIDE HDD( master and slave), Two CDROM0 and CDROW1( RW), Win 2K server OS.
Oneday all of the sudden, while I am surfing the net, it started losing my mouse cursor, but It would come in a little while, then My Desktop stalled.Even CTRL-AL-DELETE did not work, I manually rebooted the system, I had CDROM0 set as first boot device, so System tried to boot/or check the CDROM0, ( No disk on the CDROM), it failed. On my next attempt I changed the first booting device from CDROM to floppy, system did not even boot( Windows  did not ever start).
Any one knows what is causing this? I think it is a CPU failure, What do you suggest? ( to fix this problem)
Also, couple of months back, my CPU got heated, and started giving Warning alarms. I never bothered to replace the fan, instead I disabed CPU heat warning. But lately I was not using computer that much. but still this happened.
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by:sorgie
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could very well be the CPU, does it have a fan on the processor?? Some MB won't boot if CPU fan is inop. Solution is to change the CPU. I would suggest if you are going to replace it and you can afford it buy a new MB with a fast processor.
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by:Wakeup
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Also one thing you can do is take the case off the computer and maybe the extra airflow will at least cause it to come up.  Another thing that happens with the computer to cause it to not work like that is a hard drive failure....when it locked up and paused...it was probably trying to read from the drive and could not do so....causing it to lock up...does your bios detect your Hard drive properly?
Can you boot to a bootable floppy disk?  I noticed you said you changed boot devices, which probably does not have any effect on the boot up process unless you have a bootable CD or floppy in the drive.  Alas something else to check is that the CPU is failing or failed.  but I do not think so if you can access the bios etc.
But you never know....
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Let's see.  A heat warning from your CPU. That sounds like a failing fan.  Why did you disable the warning?  That is sort of like the oil light coming on in your car.  Instead of checking the oil you just disconnect the light.  It will eventually cause damage.  You just killed the warning mechanism.
You may have done irreparable damage to your CPU and mobo by doing this.  As suggested, replace the mobo AND cpu.  they have good prices on combos at www.tigerdirect.com
You can also do some price checking at www.tomshardware.com
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by:rs_1915
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It looks like HD0 failed. HD0 is set up as master and HD1 set up as slave. When it tries to detect at boot time,  it came back with Master drive: None.
I assumed CPU is the one which is supposed to fail ( due to heat problem), not hard drive.( harddrive 0 was running without any problems until now ).
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by:EricWestbo
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rs...

step one in this situation is to get a fan on your CPU.  step two is to run some diagnostics on your CPU and motherboard.  as Slink stated, you might have caused irreparable damage to your system at this point.

your HD may have "failed" because the mobo is damaged & not recognizing it.  this happened to me a year back when my wife disconnected the system speaker on my computer because "it kept making an alarm sound and was driving me crazy!"  (her words exactly.  she has since learned what a power switch is... $300 lesson)

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by:rs_1915
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Why wouldn't it detect HD0 but HD1? and it detected rest of the devices.
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by:slink9
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Each piece of the CPU has a certain function, sort of like the human brain.  When you get brain damage everything doesn't shut down because of it, just the area controlled by that area of the brain.  The same applies here.  The heat warnings that you chose to ignore have probably damaged the area that controls HD0.  Good explanation?
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by:Moondancer
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Has this helped you or is more needed?
Moondancer - EE Moderator
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by:EricWestbo
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Slink9 has made a good point... consider that your PC has had a "stroke" and now can't move it's right arm, "HD0"

:)

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by:EricWestbo
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rs...

what's the status here?

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Split the points.
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by:EricWestbo
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slink9... is that a four-way split your suggesting, or the three way I mentioned above?

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Three way is fine with me.
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by:rs_1915
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ok,,question is how to split the points. What i will do is pass all the points to slink9 and he can split to anyone who wishes...or who is in his wishlist :)
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Okay.  Accept one of my comments and I will post a 20-point question for Wakeup and Sorgie.  No biggie, I have plenty to spare.
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Exellente!! Grandeur!!
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Wakeup and Sorgie.  Check Desktops for your points.
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nice resolution, guys...

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