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IBM Thinkpad Hibernation File

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Recently purchased a refurbished IBM Thinkpad 600E laptop that has just been terrific in terms of meeting my needs and for the price I paid for it.

I do have one question about a message I receive during the boot-up cycle which appears just before the desktop is refreshed on the screen.  The message reads:

Hiberation file cannot be created on the external hard disk (secondary hard disk) or the hard disk with the disk compression system.

This message appears for a considerable period (30 secs.), during which no key combination will seemingly truncate the message and allow the completion of the boot-up cycle.  After some period of time the message disappears and then computer desktop appears and the computer functions normally.  

Can anyone weigh in on what this message is all about and how can it be deleted?  Something in the Thinkpad configuration menu possibly?  Not terribly familiar with these Thinkpads and no manual, other than a .pdf manual accompanied the machine.  I've found no reference to this type of problem/message, although I know the system can be "put to sleep" using the FN-F4 key combination.  Any insights?

Thanks

Chris
North Augusta, SC
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by:frache
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A hibernation file is necessary to put your laptop in sleep mode.
In my opinionn, software (OS) has been reinstalled on your PC using regular Microsoft CD.

2 ways :

- Look in bios if you have parameter in energy section.
- Reinstall your laptop with IBM restore CD.
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Hi CDobyns

If I remember the stinkpad (Thinkpad) have a setup section about this Hibernation all you needs to do is uncheck
the section OR use disable Hibernation.

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by:Kyle Schroeder
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CDobyns:
Are you still having the problem with the hibernation file error?  Have you installed the IBM ThinkPad utilities from:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-4ZFRG3.html?lang=en_US
What OS are you running?  I'm guessing you have NT/2000/XP and the hibernation utility can't create the file since it doesn't understand NTFS(5)?

See this page:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/MIGR-40800.html

Ahh, I was right...you can't hibernate (using the ThinkPad utility/hardware) with a NTFS partition:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/PFAN-3VXSNV.html

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by:CDobyns
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Am just temporarily rejecting ramilevi's proposed answer, pending some further follow-up comments that I got from my son on his requisite Father's Day phone call (what a good son he is).  

He tells me that he can't "uncheck" the hibernation file creation setting on the configuration set-up.  My thinking is maybe we should approach this from the opposite direction.  Maybe if we eliminate the disk compression option on the one disk partition, maybe the hibernation files can be successfully set-up?  Now my question is, although I remember about the disk compression option, where is it that you disable that compression disk option?

Think we're sneaking up on an answer, maybe through the backdoor.

Thanks
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by:Kyle Schroeder
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CDobyns:

The reason the BIOS can't create the hibernation file is because the harddrive is formatted with NTFS and the IBM BIOS on the Thinkpad doesn't understand/know how to read NTFS formatted drives.  He should be able to disable the BIOS-based hibernation and enable hibernation from within Windows (98 and 2000/XP at least).

Is the laptop running Win2000/XP???

If the system has Win98, the disk compression option can be accessed through Start->Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Disk Compression, or possibly by right-clicking the C: drive in My Computer, choose Properties, then there should be a compression tab.

Please provide more specifics on the OS the system is running, and the harddrive format (you can find this on the drive properties as instructed above; its on the General tab listed as "Filesystem".

-dog*
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by:Kyle Schroeder
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Also, have him check that the root directory of C: (C:\) doesn't have too many files in it.  There shouldn't be more than ~20 required files (at most); if he has saved other files and/or documents there, have him move them to another folder on the drive.  Win95 (FAT16 harddrive format) specifically had an issue with this if there were more than 255 entries (files/folders) in the root directory.

-dog*
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Also since this is a BIOS generated message, a BIOS update might help also.  One of the recent updates for this laptop addressed a hibernation file issue...it can be downloaded from this page:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-43DNQ5.html

Note that this is only for certain models of TP600E, the supported types are listed at the top of the page.  The model-type information is on the bottom of the laptop, generally listed at M/T: 6544-xxx or TYPE 6543-xxx

If he has a 2645-xxx or 2646-xxx with one of the specific types listed here:
http://www.pc.ibm.com/qtechinfo/DSHY-46HLKQ.html

Then the correct BIOS update dcan be downloaded from that page.

-dog*
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