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Floppy drive not accessible

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I am having a strange problem with my floppy drive on a Win 98 machine which has 2 IDE HD's, 1 SCSI HD and 1 CD-ROM.  Floppy works if I boot to DOS mode or Windows safe mode but does not work in Windows normal mode.  When I try to access it, the light goes on and after about 30 seconds I get a message that drive is not ready.

I have tried changing the boot order in the BIOS and removing & reinstalling the floppy controller driver but no luck.  I got this tip from Microsoft's website.

Any help is appreciated.
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by:jhance
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In DOS and SAFE mode, the BIOS runs the floppy.  In Windows, there is a DEVICE DRIVER for it.  My guess is that your floppy device driver is corrupted.

Check the file:

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS\HSFLOP.PDR
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by:wokboy
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A little out of left field but the SCSI card isn't attached to the SCSI card is it?

Older SCSI cards used to have a floppy controller on them to attach a floppy disk drive to. In which case you probably need to enable the floppy controller in the SCSI bios or via jumpers.
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by:wokboy
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Sorry Floppy drive isn't attached to SCSI card is it? My fingers aren't typing what my brain wants.
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by:Boling
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jhance is on the right track.  Try deleting the floppy drive in Device Manager and reboot.  Windows should redetect the drive and reinstall the driver.

Hope this helps.
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by:t1n0m3n
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If deleting the device doesn't work, get a new drive and new cable and see if that helps
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by:jhance
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>>get a new drive and new cable and see if that helps

In general that is a good possibility but you should read the question again.
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by:zafaric
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The floppy is not connected to SCSI card.

I have already tried a different working floppy and cable.  Actually that's how I found out that it was not the floppy that was bad.

The only thing that seems logical is to try replacing the driver file C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS\HSFLOP.PDR manually. I will try that.

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by:Crash2100
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do you happen to have microsoft find fast or norton utilities or notron systemworks installed?
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by:Crash2100
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try running msconfig, choose "selective startup" and uncheck "load startup group items".  Restart and see if you can access the floppy.  If you can then it's one of your programs causing this.  If it works, add the programs back one by one checking to see if the problem reappears.
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by:zafaric
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I don't have ms fast find or norton utilities or notron systemworks installed.

I will try your ms config suggestion.
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by:djohnson1
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Boot up in safe mode. In Control Panel click SYSTEM, DEVICE MANAGER, DISK DRIVES and remove all "Floppy Disk" you see...then click on FLOPPY DISK CONTROLLERS and remove all controllers you see. Click OK and restart your system. The OS will relocate the FDD and controller for you. Let me know if this helps.
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by:zombiwulf
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For a 'quick and dirty' you can also just disable the floppy in Device Manager.

What this does is disable the 32bit protected mode driver and falls back to bios support for the drive.

It will be somewhat slower - but how fast is a floppy anyway?

If it doesn't work with the PM driver disabled, then it is almost certainly something loading up and conflicting.

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by:zafaric
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I have tried all the suggestions but no luck.  Doesn't matter what i try it appears to have no effect. The only change I noticed was that when i disabled the controller in Device Mangager, the error message popped up quicker.
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by:zafaric
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None of the suggestions fixed the problem so you can close it.  Thank you.
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