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Please, I need an immediate answer on this. I just bought a MAC (its my first)and I'm trying to connect to my Win2k server. How do I do it? I don't know the first thing to do. Someone told me that all I had to do was type in the name of the server and that it would connect to it. But its not working! I also added the APPLETALK protocol in my Win2k server (don't know if I was supposed to do it..but I did), and that too didn't do the job. NOW WHAT??? PLEASE PLEASE..DON'T TELL ME THAT I CONNECT TO A WIN2K SERVER!
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by:weed
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From the apple docs:

 To mount a share using the Finder, you will need at least Mac OS X 10.1. Previous versions of the OS do not contain the necessary features to support accessing SMB shares natively. The first step to mounting the share is to select the Go menu and then select Connect to Server. The Finder keyboard shortcut is Command + K. This will open the Connect to Server dialog box. In this box there is a field labeled Address. In this field you want to enter:

smb://workgroup;username@netbiosname/share

Then click the Connect button. If all goes well you will be presented with the SMB/CIFS Filesystem Authentication window. This window will list the workgroup, username, and server used in the previous window. What you will need to do now is enter the appropriate password and then click OK. When done correctly, you will now see an icon on your desktop that is labeled with the name of the share you just mounted. You should now be able to use the share just like any other drive on your system.
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by:pjknibbs
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Of course, if you're still running MacOS 9 then you'll have to set up Services for Macintosh on the 2K box, then share the drives so the Mac can see them--this is a different process to sharing the drives for PC users, and as far as I know only actually works if you're using the NTFS file system.
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My Win2k is using NTFS and my MAC is using OS X. All that was said...I already did. And like I said...it didn't work. Now what???
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by:Sith_Lord
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Thanks for helping Weed...but can you speak plain english for this one? LOL :-)
( smb://workgroup;username@netbiosname/share )??????

My Win2k server is a domain controller and the name of the domain is WILANG and the name of the server is WILANG3. So what exactly do I type? And the user is SITH and the disk on the server that I connect to with my other Window workstations is SERVER DRIVE. So what do I type???  

( smb://wilang;sith@wilang3/server drive )????

Please! I need everybody to be specific...as this isn't easy for me. Thank you!

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by:pjknibbs
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Sith_Lord: Nowhere in your question did you mention anything about NTFS or Services for Macintosh--you just mentioned the Appletalk protocol. Installing the AppleTalk protocol is NOT the same as installing Services for Macintosh, so maybe you should check your facts before making snide comments.
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by:Sith_Lord
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LMAO :-) Sorry man! I knew this would happen. I wrote this late last night and I wasn't myself. I'll explain...
First off..it was late and I was tired. I had gotten into a fight with my wife and the best excuse of all was that I drank NYQUIL because I was feeling flu like symptoms. So of course...I was a bit f***ed up! Please, I apologize for my way of talking. I wasn't myself last night. I'm sorry.
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by:Petectid
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You would type smb://wilang3/Sharename  Remember forward slash not backslash.  I use this method all the time but have found it much more reliable since installing Samba 2.2
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OK OK..lets me get this straight before I do this. DO NOT TYPE....
( smb://wilang;sith@wilang3/server drive )????

But instead type in...
( smb://wilang3/serverdrive )???

Is that correct?
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by:weed
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Cant make it much clearer than smb://workgroup;username@netbiosname/share...You just need to substitute in the appropriate terms for those above. So where it says "workgroup;username" you would substitute in your workgroup name, and your username. "Netbiosname", is your netbios name.
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by:Sith_Lord
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OK...I am a bit confused. Because your telling me something but Petectid is telling me another. Which is correct?
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by:weed
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What i posted is a direct copy>paste from the apple knowledge base.
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by:Sith_Lord
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Now! When I type in all of this...what is it supposed to do? Because I typed it in and then nothing happend. The screen where I was typing all of this diappeared and I got no messages.
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by:weed
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It should pop up a window asking for more information. Once entered an icon should appear on your desktop or at the root level of a new finder window depending on your settings. That is the share point.
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I have no idea whats going on. Maybe I'm not typing in this right.  username is Sith, domain name is wilang.net, and share is server drive.
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ok...i did this the way everybody told me to do it and its not working. What now? Do I have to get a program called DAVE?
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by:weed
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You dont need Dave. My guess is that you either have a configuration problem on the PC, the Mac isnt on the network, or your address is mixed up.
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What are the TCP/IP settings of the two machines you're trying to connect? (e.g. address, subnet mask). Can you PING one machine from the other?
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by:Sith_Lord
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First off I would like to say to all...THANK YOU. Thank you for helping me. OK, I have one Win2k server and 2 WinXP workstations and of course the iMAC. They're all connected through this...
http://www.speedstream.com/datasheet_2614.html

ALL machines, including the iMAC, can ping each other. When I log in to the router...I can see the address  of each computer that is connected, INCLUDING THE MAC! So what gives? Is it because I installed the appletalk protocol on the Win2k server and made appletalk active on the iMAC?? Maybe I'm typing the address wrong?? Ok...I will explain everything again...

When I go to "system properties" on the Win2k server it says....
FULL COMPUTER NAME:   WILANG3.WILANG.NET
DOMAIN:               WILANG.NET

The user is my name..."sith". And the share name I gave to the drive I need to connect to is "server drive". So I typed in...
smb://wilang;sith@wilang/server drive
And it won't work!  This sucks!! OH!!!  BY THE WAY...can I connect to the printer that is connected to my server and use it from the iMAC too? Screw this! I'm raising the points on this question.
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by:weed
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I wonder if the share name is allowed to have spaces...?..Might try changing it to a name with no spaces. Also try a : instead of a ;.

You can connect to the printer but you will need to have print services properly set up on the server.
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I did do that. I changed it from server drive to serverdrive and it didn't work. The : didn't do it neither.
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by:Sith_Lord
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Ok, I tried something else and I think I'm getting closer to getting it.  I changed the share drive from "server drive" to just "server". I then typed in this....

smb://wilang.net/server

And for the first time I get a message that says...

SMB / CIFS Filesystem Authentication
enter username and password for WILANG.NET

And underneath all of that it asks for
WORKGROUP / DOMAIN
USERNAME
PASSWORD

I feel in the righ things and it just tells me....

NO FILE SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE AT ..................
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by:weed
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Probably because you didnt include most of the relevant information in the url. Type it according to apple's instructions with the new unspaced share point.
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I typed everything imaginable and nothing works. THIS SUCKS!!! I thought MACS were cool?
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by:weed
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Hey, no computer works right if you dont give it the right instructions. You are using 10.1.5...correct? Checked your software update panel?
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Yes, 10.1.5 and I did software update. Dont you think that has to be that something is wrong on the Win2k server? Remember how we thought that maybe "server drive" wasn't right? That's why I changed it now to "server". We're talking about the share drive here. Maybe its the domain name?? Or the protocol?
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Could be something wrong with the server. Can any other machines connect to it? What parameters are you using to connect with them if they can connect at all?
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by:Petectid
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Sith something is wrong but do not go and change the domain name that would only complicate things.  Share a drive on the server say C$ make it a hidden share so others will not see it on the network then try to connect smb://wilang3/C$ you should the be asked for authentication therefore you will need access rights to drive C, so its easier to connect with the administrator account and password.   If you cannot connect is your mac set up with the same subnet/ip range?  If this works try what you were doing earlier and if you cannot make the final connection check your access permissions on the share.
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One more thing when you connect to the win 2000 server or workstation you need a valid account on the computer you are connecting to.  If you do not have permissions or a valid account on the server it will not authenticate your connection.  If you are getting to the point where you are asked for the domain name, username and password the last two are the username and password for your domain user account on the windows 2000 domain not the logon for your OS X workstation?  If this does not work then go to a windows box and check that you can connect from there, go to run and type \\wilang3\C$ if it does not open the share then there is something much more wrong here.  
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Yes weed...all other workstations connect to it. I logged into the router and the MAC shows up as connected. I can ping to the server, to all others and to the MAC. Petecdid...everything looks OK. I tried many things and nothing is working. Could it be because it is connected to the router??? Do you think that I should try to connect the server and MAC to a hub? The router is a DHCP server. That's how the MAC gets its IP addy.
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I don't know about you guys, but I love DAVE!!!  Not Dave the guy! LOL :-)  DAVE the software!!  I went to www.thursby.com and downloaded the evaluation trial and things are going great. HOWEVER!!!  Printing is not working so well. I have a printer that is hooked up to the server, its an HPdeskjet 697c. The MAC sees it and can print to it but everything comes out VERY SCREWY!!!  As a matter of fact...when I pick a printer to add, it gives me options on which printer it is. I see many printers but none are mine. So I leave it selected as "generic".  This doesn't work. What now??  Points are still up for this post. ;-)
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by:weed
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You dont need Dave though. I have a policy of never installing software thats not needed.

As far as the printer, you probably dont have the printer drivers for that printer installed. Install the drivers for that printer and it should show you proper profiles.
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I totally agree with you on that first comment. But come on!!  I was stuck here and nobody's solutions were working. LOL Hey! I'm still open for suggestions on this post. About the printer, what is that you want me to do? I went over to Hewlett Packard and downloaded HPdeskjet 694c drivers but for MAC9. They don't have for X! But anyways...it downloaded here on my MAC and I installed it and I still don't see it.  I don't know guys....I'm not impressed with the MAC. And why the HELL is surfing the web sooooooo slow??  I tried other web browsers and their not making surfing any faster. I sold my P2 450mhz computer because I thought that surfing the web on that computer was a bit slow. I've been kicking myself in the ass since I sold it and got the MAC thinking it would be faster. Sorry guys. Don't take this personal....but I'm not impressed. NO NO!!! Sorry! I take that back. Actually, I am impressed on how nice it looks and how damn easy it is. I just hate surfing the web on this.
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Do an actual time comparison between browsers with cleared cache. Chimera and Mozilla are faster than IE on either platform.
As far as the printer, check macwindows.com.
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I tried Mozilla and I really didn't notice much difference. But I will try again for sure. How is that you want me to do it? Clear the caches on the browsers each time I test??? I will check macwindows.com later on in the day. What will I find at macwindows.com?
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Mozilla and especially Chimera render pages alot faster both from the line, and from cache. To do an accurate test you want to make sure none of them are loading from cache.
Macwindows has alot of information on networking between macs and PCs and is usually updated daily with the latest bugs, workarounds, methods, etc.
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It worked! But somehow I think that because DAVE is installed...this is why it worked. Because I did this same step and it didn't work before. I tried Mozilla vs. IE and I think that IE is a tad bit faster then Mozilla! I will try another browser and let you know how it goes. I'm still trying to get this damn printer to work.
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by:huafi
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Uninstall DAVE. You don't need it for your purposes; I hope you didn't pay for it.

The previous posts were correct. You can access your Win2K server by using the "Go -> Connect to Server..." menu in the Finder.

In the field at the bottom of that dialog box, type in "smb://wilang3/server" (note that I'm assuming from the information you gave before that your computer name is actually wilang3, on the wilang.net domain, and that your shared directory is still named server).

You should get the username/password prompt. If you type in a username/password for a user account configured properly on the Win2K server, you should see the dialog box disappear and the server mount on the Mac desktop. If you get the error message "No File Services are available at..." *after* you submit a valid username and password, a number of things could have gone wrong. Your Win2K server's network interface card could be configured incorrectly, or in a way incompatible with LAN filesharing (e.g., if you have a VPN tunnel configured for accessing your company's network), or you may have mistyped the share name. Unfortunately, as of 10.1.5, the Mac always displays the same error no matter what actually caused SMB filesharing to fail. Hopefully this will be fixed in 10.2.

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How do I uninstall DAVE so that I can try this new method to see if it connects to my server?
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If the installer itself doesnt provide for an Uninstall method the documentation/readme files should show a list of what was installed where. Simply remove those components.
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