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Hi there!
This page looks great to me in IE and NS, but when my client looks at the same page, she sees text disappearing underneath the images at http://www.cabledesigninc.com/signage.html   

Is anybody able to get the same result?  Does anyone know what I can do to remedy this?  It's extra tough, because it looks fine to me.  Anybody familliar with this problem?  

thanks much,
WS
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by:COBOLdinosaur
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I don't see anything being lost in IE, so I tried mozilla 1.0 which is really quirky on positioning, and it stil looked fine.  What sort of primitive instrument is the client looking at it with?  They were sober when they looked at it, right?

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Yep.. I get that too. Not on the top image, but on the bottom  ones. PC/WinME, Mozilla 1.0. Can't read it at all.

A couple of points...

Get rid of white-space in your style.
If you're using styles USE STYLES. Not font tags. The reason you use styles is so you don't HAVE to use font tags.
Don't use imagemaps when you want a LINK. YOu have imagemap tags for no good reason.
You have things like this...
 </td>
    <br>
    <td width="398"
BAD. VERY BAD. You don't put a BR tag between tds.
You also have things like this..
<td width="398" bgcolor="#B54522" align="left" valign="top" height="129">
      <div align="center">
Again, not good. You want to align the cell center, align the cell center -- not left. You don't need the div at all.

Don't put heights on your cells, and especially don't put heights on them and then have the contents bear no resemblance to the height you've specified.

You have lots of blank cells, tons of blank P tags (or with a nbsp) and more badly nested font tags than I want to even think about.

Clean all THAT up and your table might render better for everybody.

Using Dreamweaver? ;-)
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by:COBOLdinosaur
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Windows ME + mozilla  

Unraliable OS + quirky browser + plus Dreamweaver.... Yeah I guess that would do it.  About the only thing missing is frames.  Then it would really be the worse of all things.

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by:ahoffmann
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s/frames/frames + iframes +layers/
;-)

BTW, lucid7: please delete your duplicate posted question (as long as there is no comment).
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by:COBOLdinosaur
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They have to have CS delete them.  The delete option has been disabled.

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They have been deleted

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by:COBOLdinosaur
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This is getting stupid. everytime somebody post they hit refresh, and they hit refresh and resubmit. They probably keep seeing the original cached page or THEY CAN"T READ.

Would someone send them an email with instructions on how to use a web browser please.

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by:lucid7
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webwoman... am trying all your suggestions.  I'll post the results.  Thanks.

Also, as far as the refresh issue- I feel the way EE has it setup may be counter-intuitive.  I would never refresh a form I just filled out.  It's that next page- AFTER the question appears to have been posted that I refresh to see if anybody's responded.  I know to be extra careful in the future, though. Sorry for the inconvenience I caused.
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by:bruno
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right after you post, you are at a generic page....so every time you refresh, it posts the question again...you are probably right, this is not a good way for it to happen, if they simply threw the QID onto the URL, it might prevent that from happening...
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by:lexxwern
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well, i blame EE for the refresh issue,
after submitting the form the user is shown the updated page, but if he is REDIRECTED to the same page then the problem will go for ever.

>> everytime somebody post they hit refresh, and they hit refresh and resubmit. They probably keep seeing the original cached page or THEY CAN"T READ.

they probably want to see if anyone has replied.


lucid7, what about the other Q where ive posted my "on"topic comments?
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by:Cog
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try removing the align=left tags from inside the image tag that should solve the problem.  It is known issue with some browsers.
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by:Cog
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try removing the align=left tags from inside the image tag that should solve the problem.  It is known issue with some browsers.
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by:Cog
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try removing the align=left tags from inside the image tag that should solve the problem.  It is known issue with some browsers.
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by:bruno
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Cog, what's the matter?  can't READ the posts above?


"This is getting stupid. everytime somebody post they hit refresh, and they hit refresh and resubmit. They probably keep seeing the original cached page or THEY CAN"T READ."



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Sorry hit refresh
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by:ahoffmann
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off-topic:
  which stupid browser does **not** ask you for re-submitting data when you hit "Refresh" ??
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by:COBOLdinosaur
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It is time to clean this abandoned question up.  

I am putting it on a clean up list for CS.

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points to webwoman

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If anyone participating in the Q disagrees with the recommendation,
please leave a comment for the mods.

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Per recommendation, force-accepted.

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